Hummer scroll saw

[jimwrench]

 Heres my newest old scroll saw. Its a Hummer which was made in Springfield,IL which is only about 40 min from here. How could I pass it up? Got every thing freed up except upper blade slide but am confident that it will succumb to Deep Creep. Do not plan on it replacing my RBI Hawk saw. Hummer related to Sattley and made many things but found no reference to scroll saw. Haven't checked to see if they got patent. Anyone got a cache of blades for it? Guess I don't need them since is for display only.

[Art Rafael]

WOW, Jim.  What a beauty!  I can see how you couldn't pass it up.  I'd love to have one like that in my shop.  Ralph

[oldtools]

That is Too Cool Tool, looks like a belt driven pulley drive?

[Plyerman]

Very nice. Ever notice how the old toolmakers gave their products an elegant/artistic look? You don't tend to see that today.

[HeelSpur]

Sure is a beauty.

[Helleri]

wow, that's nice...you going to re-paint it?

[Branson]

That's an irresistible scroll saw!  Blades?  It ought to make do with coping saw blades or fret saw blades easily enough.

[jimwrench]

 Do not plan to repaint.
 Hummer eventually became part of Montgomery Ward. FDR issued an executive order forcing them back to work during WWII.
 Have found no patent for this saw.
Top slide freed up overnight; ready to saw.

[scottg]

This is a coolest scroll saw I ever saw!
Wow!!
 
 I expect it takes regular blades. Either 5 or 6 1/2", pin end or plain.

  I would true it up, and paint it, and use it!
 How could you resist?
 I'm seeing candy apple red with gold and blue pinstripes!!
    yours Scott

[Helleri]

well it does say patent pending on it. Doesn't that usually mean it is acting under preexisting patents (of things like internal components), and that they had not yet applied for a patent, or had and were denied?

I have a pipe wrench that says patent pending, I looked it up on USPTO site and only found it as patented later on with significant changes to the design (but still basically the same pipe wrench by the same makers)...Maybe they changed a few things later and this predates a slightly more familiar look?

[jimwrench]

 Hummer Mfg. Co. evidently was started as Post Implement Co. That would be Charles William Post who invented Post Toasties,Grapenuts and Postum as well as having numerous patents for farm implements. Have found list of implements he had patents for but can't find any patents. Datamp doesn't list any patents for him in years corresponding to years 1879-1890 which are years listed as when he received patents. None of found categories list a saw but I would like to see drawing of this saw and means of operating it. I assume it was foot operated with treadle but have no clue as to what additional mechanism was used.
 Time line evidently went Post implement,Hummer,Sattley,Montgomery Ward. Any help appreciated.

[rusty]

Nada on a saw.
256,044   1882-04-04    Post,C.W.    Cultivator.
279,980   1883-06-26    Post,C.W.    Cultivator.
294,806   1884-03-11    Post,C.W.    Cultivator.
363,762   1887-05-24    Post,C.W.    Harrow..
424,128   1890-03-25    Post,C.W.    Hay-stacker.
817,935   1906-04-17    Post,C.W.    Combined propelling and steering appa atus fo boats.

>that they had not yet applied for a patent, or had and were denied?

Making before applying would lose you the patent, once sold to the public, it becomes general knowledge, and isn't novel anymore. Several inventors learned this the hard way., Pending was only supposed to be used after application, at which point the invention is protected.

In theory, stamping patent pending on something after being denied the patent isn't allowed, but it was most likely common (what else are you going to do with them all?)


[Is there a patent class for scroll saws as such?]

[jimwrench]

Thanks rusty. List I found on internet had some wrong dates and one wrong year. I'll trust your info. Don't know how scroll saw would be classed.

[johnsironsanctuary]

Hey Jim, that is way cool! Could you post a photo of the other side? 

[jimwrench]

 Glad to John and a free end view.
 Maybe I'm chasing patent wrong. C W Post was prolific inventor for Post Implement Co. but this saw was after it became Hummer Manufacturing Co. Don't have a clue as to how much later this was.
 can one of you knowlegible patent guys like Rusty tell me if it is possible to search assignees ?