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Offline johnsironsanctuary

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A Pat'd Roller
« on: February 01, 2012, 08:33:09 AM »
I'm pretty sure that this is a miniature English wheel and that it was intended to straighten the edges of bent fenders in the '20s and 30's. I've tried DATAMP and google patent with no luck. If someone from USPO can go downstairs and wake Rusty. Yeah, that's him, the guy napping over next to the tool patents. Maybe he can figure it out.


Cast in  is 'Stiles-Herman Mfg Co St Louis MO' on one side and 'Pat'd June 1922 Addl Pats Pending' on the other.
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 11:47:04 AM »
Let Rusty finish his nap. A quick Google patent search for fender tool filtered by date issued (June
 1922) came up with this patent.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=2PQ_AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=fender+tool&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mnkpT9PQAofY2QX_uKXSAg&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=fender%20tool&f=false
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 01:20:11 PM »
That is most certainly it. Thanks Bus, I guess I need to get better at Google patent searches. Looks like it went through a few simplifications before mine was made.

Maybe sometime you could post a brief tutorial on patent searches and if we ask Papaw real nice maybe he'd make it a sticky on the whatsit forum so that we aren't all bothering you two with simple patent searches. All I searched by was dates.

Thanks again,
JIS
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 04:29:36 PM »
Sometimes I have good and quick success at patent searches, and other times I run aground like a wayward cruise ship.
It would be nice to have a tutorial on the subject.
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 04:51:05 PM »

If you have a date, datamp is the best bet to start with, it is limited to tool and machine patents which eliminates looking through a lot of unrelated garbage....

Google will find more things, but there are things not in google, and things that are very very hard to find in google. If you know a date, and a good guess at a name , Bus' method often works well, if you don't have a date, and don't know precicely what you are looking for it gets hairy :(

It is nearly impossible to find a patent for 'Bent metal thing with twisted thing stuck to it and a hole in it"
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 07:22:16 PM »
Here is a later patent for that company- http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPics.php?source=xrefCompany4234&start=0&id=4234

A metal working tool-
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 07:28:13 PM »
Sorry, guys, but I can't help going back to Papaw lying on a reef with his scuppers breeched. His patent searches are not helping the tourist trade.
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 07:29:32 PM »
"Why's everybody always pickin" on me? Charlie Brown?"
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 09:33:33 PM »
 The English wheel came in three different sizes, as I sold a mid size one on ebay several yrs. ago. Seems like I got a little over $300.00 for it.
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 12:04:10 PM »
I googled "It is nearly impossible to find a patent for 'Bent metal thing with twisted thing stuck to it and a hole in it""

It came back SEE RUSTY
He's really bent!
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 06:04:16 PM »
>He's really bent!

You have no idea...

I have 3 million patent documents on my computer....
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 08:08:10 AM »
I've got one of those,mine is about 13" wide.What are the sizes?
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 10:13:06 AM »
How about a tyre (US tire) or tube roller for vulcanisng repairs???
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 11:09:34 AM »
Geoff, we're pretty sure it is an English wheel, but just trying to find some history on it.
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Re: A Pat'd Roller
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 11:15:14 AM »
OK
Try this one on ebay:
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