A friend gave it to me, he probably picked it up at a flea market. It appears to be brand new. I have several of the Hong Cong 3" cast metal ones as well as a bunch of different brands of 4". I just realized I have 2 2 1/2", one is pot metal and the new is steel. The top 3" is Hing Cong the second is Made in Germany, the 3rd is now marked at all.