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Offline EVILDR235

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Tool collecting.
« on: July 13, 2014, 05:00:16 PM »
I guess i collect Proto tools the most. I do have about 300 misc. P&C tools that sometime in the future i will sell. A lot of stuff i buy because they just appeal to me like art objects. A lot of older tools have designs machined or cast into them that catches the eye, but serves no purpose. I guess tool makers once had pride in them but fancy looks drives up the cost of the tool. I like Plomb tools, but everybody collects them and that has the prices way up on them. I still buy them when the price is right and resell them to buy other stuff. Some stuff i buy is  like a game. I have 16 braces and have not payed more that $3.00 for any of them. They are everywhere around here as are the bits. when i buy tools i only try to buy ones in decent shape. I don't buy tools that have been abused  or are real rusty. Older AMERICAN tools are easy to find, but metric not so much. I retired last year, so i don't have as much money as i used to. My garage is full of my wife and daughters stuff and i can barely get in my shop. My van is full of tools that i need to sort thru. I am now storing tools in orange Homer buckets in my computer room til i can sort thru them. I sometimes buy tools to get parts to fix other tools that are in better shape. My dream is poking around in the back yard and finding a cold war bomb shelter to store all my stuff in.

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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 06:43:40 PM »
I guess I'm a tool "collector" in that I always keep an eye out for classic American stuff. I have so much stuff now that I didn't have even 5 years ago. Being I'm doing more of my own car maintenance theses days - as my "tried and true" shop has kinda fallen down on the job a number of times. Thus, I need more specialized tools than I did in years past. And I make sure I buy, restore, and preserve American.
My Blue Bird battery tools are my latest collection. Can I do battery service without them? Sure. But why fight and just make do when you can have tools specifically made for the task and do it with style?
Plus, lots of people are selling old rusty stuff because to them it's just old rusty stuff. I see what went into making it, how it was used, who used it, and that I can save it from just sitting in a box somewhere.
I don't spend a bundle - collecting is as much therapy and relaxation as it is getting a tool I need. And everybody has something. Some collect dinner plates, or baseball cards, or Picasso's and Monet's. I collect chrome plated steel.
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2014, 07:26:58 PM »
One thing i do watch out for are tools with the makers name on them. The bigger the makers name, the better. I even have a small collection of medical tools and one huge railroad adjustable wrench. As far as auto service tools i have plenty as i was a engine mechanic for 32 years.

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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 09:27:28 PM »
Though I have absolutely no use for them, a set of watchmakers tools sort of came up at Epsteins about 2 years ago. I think the original owner took them back.
Darn that would have been a unique grab!
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 10:03:56 AM »
I collect - I have had several lifelong interests; glasswork, woodwork, metalwork, rocks and minerals and vintage stuff. Any hand work or craft is fair game.

When I was younger and we were raising our kids, I needed tools to work on of personal vehicles. We could not afford new cars and mechanics were generally out  of our price range. If a problem was too hard I could take it too my father-in-laws. He collects old cars. It was easy to justify buying tools and saving on repairs. I bought S-K when I could and Craftsman mostly. I would get tool catalogs and spend hours reading them.

I discovered vintage tools and started buying those. Time spent rebuilding paid off in big ways. Friends would call with garage sale finds.  My table saw cost $35.00 and my bandsaw $15.00.  I had to put new trunions in the bandsaw, that added $12.00 for a total of $27.00. My table saw is a 9" Delta. It has served me well but for several years I have been looking for a vintage Uni-saw with a good fence.  Other tools have been acquired the same way. 

I have been seriously collecting mechanical tools for several years now but very focused for the last year.

I was a boy scout leader for years (decades). In our church the young men use the boy scouts as their weekly youth program.  One of the crafty type badges they have is leatherwork and our young men decided that they wanted to do leatherwork.  I knew a lot of people who do a little leatherwork here and there, but no real "experts." I had basic tools. So, in order to teach leatherwork I set about learning it. A couple of months later, and 2 or 3 thousand dollars poorer, I was fair at it. All the boys made a couple of small projects first then finished by making a knife sheath for a larger pocketknife. Some of the older boys had already made smaller stuff so they were allowed to pick larger projects. The point is, because I had the slightest excuse I spent a fair amount of money on leather working tools.

Now that I have reached that point in life where money is more available I buy what I find. I intend to sell off the extra, but haven't done so much selling. I buy a lot of estate, auction, and thrift store stuff. I buy from Antique dealers when I have been looking for some time or if the price is right.

I started collecting vintage tools more seriously last summertime. I bought an auction lot that included a 1/2" S-K socket set with drivers and accessories. The lot had another set of sockets only, they turned out to be underlined Craftsmans. I researched the Craftsman tools to see what they were. Since then I have spent, I would guess, more than $15k, but less than $30k on tools.

I can't go out and "do" as much as I used to do due to a severe neuromuscular disorder. You can't tell by looking at me, (hearing Dr.'s say "I can't believe how well you present. You shouldn't be able to walk" get's kind of old.) I can't work on cars much at all. I don't like to watch sports or tv all that much. So I sit there and bring in, sort, clean, and organize tools.  I still make stuff, but it can take awhile. Collecting and using when I can keeps me in the game.

So, I guess I should start selling stuff. Anyone need anything?

Chilly


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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 07:28:56 PM »
My dad grew up poor, real poor, and if he could make do with something old and used he did.  It never left him, he enjoyed himself immensely  at auctions.   So that's where I got it.   When I was 16, he bought me a set of mechanics tools, used from a pawn shop, still have some of them.   Backed over the tool box, so it is gone, but some more have come to take its place.  Listening here, I had an idea, a silly one.   Imagine, if a bunch of us were in close proximity instead of spread across the country.   Just think what an incredible garage sale  we could put together.   Tools, parts, bits,  and the detrius of  abandoned hobbies and projects.   I have a feeling it would more than equal Epstiens.    Maybe its a good thing  we are spread out!
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 07:33:01 PM »
We would probably not sell much because each would see something the other guy has, and trade for it!
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 07:59:06 PM »
 That kinda reminds me of the MVWC spring meet. I sell a little;buy a little and meet people face to face that were only a name before.
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 12:24:37 AM »
We would probably not sell much because each would see something the other guy has, and trade for it!
You nailed it on the head!

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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2014, 12:30:29 AM »
Too bad no other members in Hawaii...
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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2014, 11:28:25 AM »
We would probably not sell much because each would see something the other guy has, and trade for it!

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Re: Tool collecting.
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2014, 03:45:50 AM »
     In a like-minded thread the question came up whether this or that person could/should be called a "collector" or a "hoarder."  Yesterday I finally settled on calling myself a "user/rescuer-mostly."  I just went downstairs and counted 37 sets of "pliers" in one drawer.  These include fencing pliers, nail grabbers/nippers, medical forceps and dental tooth-grabbers-for-pulling.  Plus, there's even more sets (maybe another 6-8) in two other toolboxes down there.
     One of my pride and joys is an owner-modified set that I've had for years but never yet needed exactly that modification.  A friend did, recently, and I drove down the mountain to let him use them for a specific job.  Cut a piece of thick-walled, small-diameter pipe in half lengthwise — or, rather, cut two such pipes so when held together they equal one pipe without having to factor in the saw kerf — and weld maybe 3/4" of them crosswise at the end of a short, "normal" set of slip-joint pliers, perpendicular to the tool.  This set (Momentary Digression: why is a set of pliers called a "set" when there's only one of them?) came in a box of "stuff" at auction in which I was "after" something/s specific that WASN'T this set of pliers.
     "Collect" them?  Not exactly.  "Hoard" them?  Nope.  "Rescue" them?  That's more like it.  Would I trade or sell them off?  Yes, but no one's asked along those lines and I'd really rather loan them out as opposed to parting them.  And just think: there may come a time when I need exactly that configuration/modification, and I'm a huge fan of having the exact/proper tool for the job.
     My maternal grandmother taught me to "dumpster dive" (long before there were dumpsters) for canning jars (plus we also picked up "stuff" that wasn't canning jars), and I've not allowed myself to set aside that early nudge.  If "pride goeth before a fall," then I oughtta be in good shape, eh?  Three years ago I "rescued" the "World's Best Pellet Rifle" from atop the smelly collection in one dumpster?  You think I had to stop and think or look around to see if anyone was watching before I "rescued" it?  Hah!
     Anyway, in the same tool cabinet there are drawers for screwdrivers, drill bits and drill parts, saws (small enough to fit in a drawer), wood chisels (two drawers), files (two drawers), layout tools, and so on.  (Sorry, it's quicker to say that than it is to go downstairs and make notes.)
     I do buy and sell tools, on occasion, and I have three "sorts" of tools.  #1 is Users (they go into my drawers or are offered for sale).  #2 is those destined for donation to my local volunteer fire department (pipe wrenches, monkey wrenches, pliers & screw drivers, spanners…) and #3 "foreign" stuff, that I refuse to sell in the "normal" range of tools, which I give away to youngsters who are pulled along by their parents at, say, "farmers market" venues.  I'm constitutionally opposed to PLASTIC hammers, pliers, screwdrivers, etc., as being "appropriate for kids."  Think: "Made in China" or "Made in Taiwan."  If, when I'm set up at a Farmer's Market, an adult stirs around in my "kids' gifts" pile/s and asks how much I want for thus-and-such, I tell them to just take it and Merry Early Xmas.
     I guess the closest thing to a "collection" I have is those tools given to me by a very-elder former employer who once worked on a government water-shed project.  He slung his head when he talked about requisitioning, say, "a" handsaw and he and his co-worker on that project being delivered a dozen of them.  Dale gave me many of the tools I still own and use, all being branded Vlchek and such and all being of top quality.  (Dale, incidently, sneered at Craftsman.  He prefered tools that didn't break under heavy use and eschewed the idea that a broken tool was easily replaced — returning, say, a broken Craftsman wrench for replacement entailed along, long drive.)  Anyway, of the dozen individual requested tools that were shipped to him and his co-worker, they kept two each and looked around for "worthy" recipients of the other ten, muttering all the while about government waste.
     So:  Collector, hoarder, rescuer…?  I get off most on boxes or buckets containing rusty — even rusted solid — stuff like my these-days go-to S-shaped Bemis & Call 10" #48 open-end-adjustable wrench.  It was once at the bottom of an "empty" roofing-tar bucket filled with rusted-tight bolts (all now "rescued") a friend/neighbor was about to haul off to the dump.  Opened to full extension, it was a perfect fit when I replaced the 1-1/2" valve on one of my fire-fighting water pumps this evening.  I've even grabbed it when it was a bit bigger than I needed.
     Mind you, I don't in any way sneer at "collectors."  In fact, it's crossed my mind to offer a Blackhawk chain hook connected to 24"+ of 3/8" OE chain to Blackhawk collectors in here — as soon as I find a similar-design-strength hook to replace it with.  I think it could make a neat "border" to a "collection" (especially if the chain was longer, darn it).
     In the same breath, so to speak, I dunno who I'd brand as an official "hoarder."  Nor, for that matter, am I really interested in such labeling.