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Offline Batz

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Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« on: December 08, 2012, 02:07:13 AM »
I thought I'll start off with a few manufactures and how to identify them. One of, if not the largest blow torch manufacturer in the U.S. was Clayton & Lambert.
I have many of these from early models to quite resent.

A little history:

Clayton & Lambert Mfg. Co.
In 1882 three brothers named Lambert started a venture in Ypsilanti, MI for the manufacture of gasoline fuelled blow torches.
Mechanics found the intense portable heat of these torches very useful, word soon spread and demand grew, the business flourished.
In 1887, a patented firepot for melting lead was added to the torch line, and its inventor, a Mr Lambert was taken into partnership. 
By 1889, demand for blow torches increased beyond production capacity and the company moved to a larger site in Detroit.
There were a few other moves after this the last being large plant at Buckner KY.
In 1970 C&L discontinued the production of gasoline blow torches; they had become extinct due to the use of propane.




This is a fairly typical C&L torch, this one I have restored to working condition. Yes I do use it in my shop at times. C&L logo is still visible.



Most C&L torches have the shield stamped into the tank. Older models did not have this.



Again most C&L torches will have the model number stamped on the top handle support. This one's a No. 327 (c1952)



Just out of interest, the hook on top of blow torches was to hold a copper soldering iron not to hang up the torch.


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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 03:04:01 AM »
Thank you for the information, Interesting what the hook & Eye was for...
Also when you say "Gasoline" was that regular Gasoline or White Gas?
I remember gas was leaded before, was that a problem?.
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 03:17:34 AM »
It was white gas, or shellite as it is known in Australia.

I believe many (if not most) people ran them on regular gasoline though.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2012, 03:03:35 AM by Batz »
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 10:14:13 AM »
Good informative post. Thanks.

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 05:55:34 PM »
What do you use in your torches?
Always looking for what interests me, anything early Dodge Brothers/Graham Brothers trucks ( pre 1932 or so ) and slant six / Super six parts.

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2012, 06:31:21 PM »
I use the correct fuel for the torch, most U.S. torches use white gas, most U.K. and European torches use kerosene.
Then to confuse matters some use alcohol.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 06:34:15 PM by Batz »
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 06:39:44 PM »
I'm confused, if the three brothers and the added partener were all named Lambert where did the name Clayton come into it?

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 08:07:19 PM »
Thank you Batz... Other than U.S & U.K, to determine type of fuel,
Can we tell by looking at the parts of torch to determine type of fuel torch it's designed for? does it matter?
Please also ID proper names; Drip pot?, Generator, Nozzle, Tank, Pump, hook/notch, shroud? other parts?
What type needs to be preheated? how long? Assume; fill, pump, open & drip to fill pot, close, light to preheat, then start...
What temperatures can they reach? is white gas hotter than kerosene? or alcohol?
Do we fill from pump or bottom plug? looks like bottom is like a funnel...
I opened the bottom & pump to inspect inside, found some wads of fiber around the syphon tube, what is that for? Filter? help draw fluids?
« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 04:56:21 AM by oldtools »
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 11:32:12 PM »
OK O.T. lots of questions there, I'll do a blow torch fuel types as well as address those questions of yours next.
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 12:45:22 AM »
I helped a friends father years ago install cast iron sewer pipes in his basement. We packed the pipe joints with oakum, installed a flexable asbestos dam around the pipe and after driving the oakum down in the joint with a special chisel, we filled the joint with molten lead that we had melted in a cast iron pot with a blow torch. I visited the son of man i helped over 45 years ago. He lives in his parents house and the work we did years ago is still working with no leaks after all thease years.

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 09:27:27 PM »
Batz, there is a typo in your history...

>In 1887, ...Mr Lambert was taken into partnership.

That would be the other guy ;P

Thus gibsontool's confusion....
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 11:24:33 PM »
Batz, there is a typo in your history...

>In 1887, ...Mr Lambert was taken into partnership.

That would be the other guy ;P

Thus gibsontool's confusion....

Yep typo, it was the other guy Clayton.
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 10:02:44 AM »
Now it makes sense, I thought that it was probably a typo.

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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2012, 04:23:11 PM »
Bump--..
Hope this Blow Torches thread continues...  It was very informative..
Thank you Batz & others for the education..
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Re: Blow torches Clayton & Lambert
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2012, 04:52:07 PM »
Sorry I've been busy with Xmas, my two sons have been home with us and we have had a pre-Xmas celebrations. They both have to work on Xmas day, they work on off shore gas rigs on the other side of the country.

I do another blow torch post within the next couple of days.

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