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Offline HeelSpur

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Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« on: December 07, 2012, 09:54:24 AM »
Got an old mill stone about 18" wide & 4" thick, I'm gonna try to make a homemade rig to crack my own corn (just for chickens). I'm gonna have a hand crank on the wheel and there will be a base that sits about 3/16" from the wheel for the corn to be cracked against. I have a nice piece of steel that would make a nice base for this but would the corn just slide on the steel between the stone and the steel base and not try to pass through, or maybe a concrete base be better because it has a coarse surface.

Are you confused yet? I could take a pic of the stone if needed.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 10:14:46 AM »
I'd think you might be better off with concrete or maybe a badly pitted piece of steel. I made one years ago to crack grain for chickens but I used two old planer feed rolls which were knurled, one end of the rolls had most of the knurling worn off and it would not feed the grain thru. I ended up making my hopper smaller to get away from the smooth part of the rolls and it worked quite well for several years. I had a small elec motor on mine with two jack shafts and sprockets to get the rotation slowed way down.

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2012, 10:17:29 AM »
I thought they came in pairs?
 Each with grooves that were deeper in the center and feathered out to nothing at the edges.
Hammers that looked like welders slag chipping hammers on steroids, that were used to deepen the grooves from time to time, by chipping lightly.

 I would try maybe a steel base lined with pavers?  Set the pavers close in mortar and build a perimeter to keep them from shifting?

 You would still need to build some way to lift the grindstone as it spins for coarse and fine grinding.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2012, 10:45:04 AM »
Heres a pic of it.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2012, 10:49:31 AM »
Its gonna be up on edge just like that with a shoot narrowing down to the width of the stone.
I do have an old wheel from inside a belt sander I was thinking about too.
Its grooved and may work somehow.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 11:16:10 AM »


From the same site-- "Perhaps counter-intuitively, millstones do not touch when in operation. There is a gap between the static bedstone and rotating runnerstone which is determined by the size of the grain. Grain is fed from a chute into a hole, known as the eye, in the centre of the runnerstone (Figure 1). An intricate system of groves known as furrows distribute the grain across the millstone surface, and also serve to ventilate and cool the millstones. The grinding surfaces of the millstones are known as lands and are divided into areas called harps (see accompanying diagram). Once ground the flour passes along narrow groves called cracking, and is expelled from the edge of the millstones."

Is this what you are talking about, Scott?



Heelspur, is that a grinding wheel for grain, or sharpening? Looks too fine to grind grain to me.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 11:56:32 AM »
Exactly Aaron. Except that was more information than I could have personally provided. heeheheheheeh
I only knew the outline story and what little I picked up repairing antique coffee grinders. Old coffee grinders used cast iron "burrs" btw.
 Burr is one name of a millstone. They said the French made the best for generations. 

 I saw the picture and thought it looked more like a grindstone for sharpening your ax or your knife, myself.
  yours Scott
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012, 12:03:33 PM »
Looks like it was rigged up as a grindstone but it does have ribs on one side for sure.
Have to look at the second side to see if its smooth or not.

It has circular groves on both sides, so I take it its not a mill stone then.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 12:19:30 PM by HeelSpur »
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2012, 12:28:01 PM »

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 12:30:57 PM »
Heres a couple more items that were with the stone.



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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 01:57:57 PM »
That top one is a combo belt/disk sander that runs off a motor and belt. I saw a powerkraft like that the other day at a shop they wanted $60 for complete with motor.

The bottom looks like a mandrel to run off a flat belt. Looks nice and heavy.

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 04:46:50 PM »
Got a question about this rig.
I have the stone mounted on a new base I made and used the same wooden mounts that was with it. After I mounted it and started turning the wheel I noticed its out of round about a 1/2".
Now I havn't taken the wheel off its axel or whatever its called, is there a way to center the stone or is the hole in the stone usually the same width as the axel?
I'd hate to have to try and make that stone round but if I do what would be the best way to do that?
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2012, 05:18:04 PM »
More than likely this is the type of stone you have.  An interesting read.

http://www.bereahistoricalsociety.org/site/Sandstone.aspx

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2012, 08:14:34 PM »
At the tractor shows, and threshing bees I attend, there is usually someone processing corn.   They arrive with a pickup load of ear corn, husk the ears, then run them through a hand cranked corn sheller.   Then take the shelled corn, fan it, and run it through a small grinder which cracks it.  Sometimes they tighten down the burrs in the grinder, or have a second one set up.   The corn meal coming out of this second run is good enough to make corn bread from.  These are usually cast iron, and attached to a board, they aren't much bigger than a toaster.    Some of them have hand cranks, and some are run from the hit and miss engine by flatbelt.   I know mills used stones to grind with, but smaller setups usually used a burr grinder.  Just my thoughts. 
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 03:32:15 PM »
Found out why the stone is out of wack, it was put together that way.

The wooden donut split on me, but the half on the right has a hole in it where lead was pored through to fill any voids.


This is where the lead was pulled out.


Lead removed exposing the wood that holding the shaft, axil or whatever its called.


Look how far off center it is in the next 2 pics. Now I know why its a 1/2" difference while turning.



Other side.
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