Alloy Artifacts

[rusty]

>a group to assist or take over sites that the owners are unable or unwilling to >maintain is a workable idea. I have little idea what it would require.

A complete rewrite of broken copyright law....

[Papaw]

The owner would have to agree, and  either sell or give away the rights.

[scottg]

 

>a group to assist or take over sites that the owners are unable or unwilling to >maintain is a workable idea. I have little idea what it would require.

A complete rewrite of broken copyright law....

The owner would have to agree, and  either sell or give away the rights.

Nope its his, and I would defend that for all I'm worth.
 If he retires and didn't want to be involved in a new undertaking, we would have to start over from scratch.  He owns his research and page layout etc., but the history represented doesn't belong to anyone.
  We would have to ferret it out by ourselves. Start over from the beginning. 

He did it all alone. It took years.
A dedicated group, each having resources and talents to draw on, could do it phenomenally quicker.
  yours Scott
 

[Papaw]

Nope its his, and I would defend that for all I'm worth.

As would I , and I hope all of us here.
I don't suppose any of us know him well enough to check on him personally?

[Neals]

I wasn't saying the group should steal the site. I would think that some of the owners of the free access sites would be only to happy to have the site outlive them. I know of no reason that the copywrite owner couldn't transfer the copywrite or internet publishing right to anyone he chooses

[Papaw]

I wonder what price it would bring. Just for the content, not the tools themselves, I'm not sure any of us could afford that collection.
I always wondered who owns it and if the tools are ever on display?

[amertrac]

I think Tool Talk is better backed up now, but things happen.

YES - When my first child was born I started watching pictures taken galore and in this day of digital photography I got paranoid.  I purchased a dedicated "server" with 4 hard drives in a raid 5 array.  I had a data replication method in place to "instantly mirror" it to a sister server; that itself had two hard drives mirrored.  Both had tape backups also.  They were stored in a raised floor server room I had built on the first floor of the house.  Rack mounted.  Fans galore.  It was climate controlled independent of the house, and power conditioned.
  I have pictures of my great grand  children from somogram to 2 year olds there has to be several hundred on my computer.I have put them on disks but I have not deleted them from the computer cause I like to look every once in a while. My computer is starting to slow down from all the tools and baby pics I will have to start deleting or it will stop.  bob w.

I have lost my pictures of my first born's first 8 months.  In all my thinking, I never considered divorce.

[snapmom]

I emailed him, and got a reply.   His long time girl friend passed away, and he has lost interest in tools right now.

So, I sure he is hurting right now, we should just give him some time.

[oldtools]

My Condolence, hope he recovers

[bgarrett]

Is there any new information on the Alloy Artifacts website? I have some tools  that fill in gaps. I know his pics are his tools but he has GAPS, big ones that we could help fill.

Does anyone know of wrenches with wrong sizes on them?


wrong sizes by farmgate, on Flickr

[snapmom]

Is there any new information on the Alloy Artifacts website? I have some tools  that fill in gaps. I know his pics are his tools but he has GAPS, big ones that we could help fill.

Does anyone know of wrenches with wrong sizes on them?


wrong sizes by farmgate, on Flickr

Maybe its a whitworth.

[leg17]

The bigger opening is marked with the smaller size.

[rusty]

>The bigger opening is marked with the smaller size.

-factory, 1952-

"Hey, I got another load of wrenches, where's the QA guy?"
"He's out at the coffee wagon"
"Oh, what should I do with these wrenches?"
"I dunno, throw them in that box over there"
"OK"
...
"Hey I got another load of wrenches, where's the QA guy?"
"They fired him"
"Oh, that's too bad, I wonder why?"
"Dunno"
"So...what should I do with these wrenches?"
"I dunno, throw them in that box over there"

[bgarrett]

Its the only wrench I have that has the sizes marked on the wrong ends

[mr.x]

"He did it all alone. It took years."

 
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Uhhhhh, kind of.....He created and ran a great site, it was his vision and he I can't even imagine how much time he had to spend on the administrative and technical end or just replying to every Joe Swapmeet  Emailing him with their latest find or appraisal request.  He's also a very sharp detective with all the research and analytical skills that would imply.
  It's interesting how if you find yourself in a conversation with someone relating to early 20th century mechanic tools you can tell just by their knowledge level whether they're familiar with the AA site or still stuck in the "dark ages". Having said that you can also tell if they're ONLY familiar with that site and go on about 4th connecting rod wrenches and fan pulley sockets without knowing what the hell those items even are.
 OK, back to my point. A significant amount of the information and research on different companies was provided by others, including I know for a fact, at least one individual who has already posted on this thread. This is just a fact and to steal a phrase from "A Knights Tale" is beyond contestation.
 That's not to take away anything form the site. The creator of the site (I'm not sure he wants his name out there) IMO has done more for early 20th century mechanic type tool knowledge, research and collecting than anyone. If every Ebay seller that's "borrowed" directly from his site had to fork over 1% of their net, he'd be all set.