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Offline OilyRascal

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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #180 on: December 14, 2013, 12:43:38 PM »

Thanks Oily.  I did not know that Thosen produced early versions of the enclosed round head.  I guess I've never run across these in the wild; must be fairly rare. 

Any clue when the open head ratchets first appeared?  I noticed the 1958 Thorsen Brochure/Pricelist I sent you a copy of mentioned "The All-New Thorsen Ratchet" and it's features (i.e. open head design... simplicity).  Included in this brochure/pricelist were ratchet models 77M, 77J, 77, 77NR, and 79.  Could 1958 have been the introduction of the open head design?  If so, that would be a fairly short run, ca. 1958-1968 (perhaps a little later).
 

There are issues I have with dating the start of the open head design in 1958.   1) I have surfaced a 1955 brochure that also has the open head ratchet included in chrome form and with a "dust cover".   2)  I have examples of the open head 77 ratchet that pre-dates the introduction of chroming AND the dust cover.  It is fair to say at least TWO improvements were made to that ratchet; the cover over the open head, and chrome plating.  I can't even conclude the "The All New Ratchet" marketing found in the 1958 literature was covering an improvement I've discussed here (again, I have a 1955 showing chrome and a cover).

Link to thread with 1955 brochure download.
http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=9680.0

This is the early 3/8" drive 77J open head design that pre-dates chroming and the dust cover.





This is an early round head 3/4" drive Thorsen ratchet (with removable drive plug) I have.



And lastly, there is this early ratchet which is marked 77JA.  It is of the open head design, no original chroming, and with a fixed 9/16" socket.  It is unclear to me if this was a specialty ratchet, or if it was ONE within the timeline of their ratchet's progression.  I will say that of the four 77A ratchets I've seen (and I own two of them) they were all of the 9/16" size.  Which leads me to believe it was a specialty socket versus a situation where multiple size fixed sockets were available in this ratchet design.  I hope that makes sense.







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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #181 on: December 14, 2013, 01:15:22 PM »
Oily,

Thanks for your thoughts on the open head design ratchets.  And mucho thanks to the link with the 1955 partial catalog download; a new to me document.
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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2013, 05:55:28 PM »
Hi, yeah the Thorsen open head design goes back to mid thirties, I've seen it in a Thorsen 38-39 cat. and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing  contract Thorsen made open head ratchets  in an earlier (36?) General Tool (of Portland OR) catalog.

 

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« Reply #183 on: December 15, 2013, 02:31:03 PM »
mr.x,

Do you have any early Thorsen catalogs (pre-1950)?  If so, there is much interest here on this thread.  We have many questions and fewer answers. 
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« Reply #184 on: December 15, 2013, 03:09:02 PM »
I tried downloading the PDF but will not accept the ASK tool bar and all the other BS that goes with it.   :o{
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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #185 on: December 15, 2013, 03:32:58 PM »
I tried downloading the PDF but will not accept the ASK tool bar and all the other BS that goes with it.   :o{

Interesting - I don't have THAT issue.  PM me your email address and I'll send it to you as an attachment.
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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #186 on: December 18, 2013, 08:45:22 AM »
Lauver, almost all of my old tool stuff, including catalogs is on the other side of the country. I probably have a half dozen pictures from the 38 Thorsen somewhere on my computer. I remember that cat. cause it has a drawing of the Bay bridge on the front, which had only been finished late in 36 and I was trying to imagine what a HUGE difference that would make for someone going back and forth from the Thorsen retail store on Bush St in (downtown)SF to the Emeryville factory which is just about a mile from that IKEA on the East( Oakland)  end of the bridge.  Anyway, If I can find the pictures I'll post them or worst case, I'll send them to someone who can.

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« Reply #187 on: December 18, 2013, 11:14:07 AM »
Lauver, almost all of my old tool stuff, including catalogs is on the other side of the country. I probably have a half dozen pictures from the 38 Thorsen somewhere on my computer. I remember that cat. cause it has a drawing of the Bay bridge on the front, which had only been finished late in 36 and I was trying to imagine what a HUGE difference that would make for someone going back and forth from the Thorsen retail store on Bush St in (downtown)SF to the Emeryville factory which is just about a mile from that IKEA on the East( Oakland)  end of the bridge.  Anyway, If I can find the pictures I'll post them or worst case, I'll send them to someone who can.

Any assistance with a better understanding of the early days would be very much appreciated.
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« Reply #188 on: December 21, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »
circa late 1950's - a Thorsen wire rack display that would hook onto a pegboard.

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« Reply #189 on: December 21, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »
circa late 1950's - a Thorsen wire rack display that would hook onto a pegboard.

That is really nice.  Great display, thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #190 on: March 24, 2014, 12:07:57 AM »
i have an action 77ja that looks like a thorsen

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« Reply #191 on: May 29, 2014, 08:48:51 PM »
And the family is together at last.  The 3/4" drive Thorsen 79 open gear ratchet.

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« Reply #192 on: May 30, 2014, 04:24:43 AM »
Big score there OR......

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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #193 on: May 30, 2014, 06:29:21 AM »
Nice, real nice, that 3/4 looks huge!
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Re: Thorsen tools collection
« Reply #194 on: May 30, 2014, 09:13:20 AM »
i have an action 77ja that looks like a thorsen

Action tools were made by Thorsen.  Action was a Thorsen brand.