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Offline 1930

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Pliers
« on: June 14, 2011, 12:15:57 PM »
I have had some pliers recently described to me as ..............You mention on your pliers that there is a mark of 25 drop forged, I have record of the 1932 Pliers having a 10 Drop Forged and 1928 pliers as having a 19 Drop Forged but unfortunately am still unclear on where this marking is to be found and how all these numbers correspond...............Has anyone seen any of these slip joint pliers pictures below with any of these sorts of markings???
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 12:18:27 PM by 1930 »
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2011, 08:17:12 AM »
You mention on your pliers that there is a mark of 25 drop forged, I have record of the 1932 Pliers having a 10 Drop Forged and 1928 pliers as having a 19 Drop Forged but unfortunately am still unclear on where this marking is to be found and how all these numbers correspond...............Has anyone seen any of these slip joint pliers pictures below with any of these sorts of markings???

Not slip joint (though I may have some of these -- haven't looked at them all) but I have a pair of assembly pliers that are marked
X
10
(undecipherable)
on the legs, between the jaws and the wide part of the handles.  No other markings I can find.

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2011, 11:55:06 AM »
1930,

yes, I have seen these quite often. I believe they are made by Vlchek, likely contract production for any of many sources of distribution. Like the unmarked Vlchek wrenches common to auto toolkits in the 40's, I believe the numbers are misleading as they are more than likely die numbers to signify which die the piece was made from. I don't think they are a model number or anything in the way of year of manufacture. Just numbers used in the production of the tool.

Pliers similar to these can be found in tool kits for the Chevrolet vehicles of the 1920's and beyond.
here's a good link http://1940chevrolet.com/node/25 to see different pliers available for the old chevy's through the years, and the pliers represented on this linked page look a lot like the pictured type.
-Aaron C.

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Wards Master Quality 1/2" drive sockets (Need size 5/8), long extension, & speeder handle.
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-Hinsdale double-box end round shank wrenches.

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 01:22:39 PM »
I've seen these numbers on pliers also and I agree with keykeeper that they are probably die ID numbers and not catalog or part numbers.

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 04:43:23 PM »
Thanks guys, if you run across any and that are fairly inexpensive let me know, thank-you keykeeper for the pict, that was a big help as I have not seen yet the pliers and the person doing the describing seems less than enthusiastice to say much more....imagine that
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 06:00:53 PM »
You are welcome. That website has quite good info on it regarding some of the early Chevy tools, which I suspect were used by other makers as well.

I have a few pairs of those pliers, I'll have to do a little digging to see what's out there in the "shed o' stuff"....lol.
-Aaron C.

My vintage tool Want list:
Wards Master Quality 1/2" drive sockets (Need size 5/8), long extension, & speeder handle.
-Vlchek WB* series double box wrenches.
-Hinsdale double-box end round shank wrenches.

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 06:12:36 PM »
I poked around a bit in the dungeon and found a pair with 35 on one handle, and 1 on the other...hmm
seems to have been painted black at one point, 6 1/4" long....

No other mark besides drop forged, always more or less figured them as tool kit pliers...
« Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 06:22:29 PM by rusty »
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

Offline 1930

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 06:20:36 PM »
I am not the least bit cocerned with condition as long as they arent modified I guess, thanks
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 07:02:41 PM »
1930,

I poked around the shed and found these the other day. First two pictures are the "drop forged" marked ones (on side number 41, other side 48 or 49).

 Last two pictures are the McKaig-Hatch pliers featured elsewhere on the site I linked to, for comparison purposes. Thought I would throw those in to show the differences to anyone interested.

If the first pair is what you need, let me know.
-Aaron C.

My vintage tool Want list:
Wards Master Quality 1/2" drive sockets (Need size 5/8), long extension, & speeder handle.
-Vlchek WB* series double box wrenches.
-Hinsdale double-box end round shank wrenches.

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Re: Pliers
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 07:42:42 PM »
Thanks for the great pict, I am at a standstill with the pliers at this point but yes what do these pliers run. My e-mail is jhason2@yahoo.com Thanks
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 05:20:35 AM »
Thanks for the great pict, I am at a standstill with the pliers at this point but yes what do these pliers run. My e-mail is jhason2@yahoo.com Thanks

At flea markets and garage sales, they run about 50 cents to two dollars around here.   Sorry for no pics, but with a trip to the shed, I found a pair marked:

"MOTOR SPEC.
DULUTH USA."


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Re: Pliers
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 04:23:19 PM »
Ill take them both, sent you an e-mail
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 11:38:08 AM »
I also found these recently in an earlier Plymouth toolkit, I am pretty sure that there was just a recent discussion on this manuf. but I dont recall what was said. I cant read what is printed within the triangle. Any info would be appreciated
Are these avail in different lengths, are the pliers that are marked with a # and drop forged avail in different lengths, Aaron I did not ask you the length of the two you have.
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 12:22:15 PM »
I am pretty sure those are indestro pliers , but i do not know time frame. 



Thanks,
Kirk
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Re: Pliers
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2011, 03:35:57 PM »
I am pretty sure those are indestro pliers , but i do not know time frame. 
Thanks,
Kirk

Thanks from me, too.  I just got an identical pair (with most of the chrome intact),  and a couple of weeks earlier, a pair of needle nose pliers with the same mark.