Sacramento hacksaw

[Branson]

I got this hacksaw on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370575719797?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I'm wondering how it ended up in Princeton, NJ.  It would take a 6 inch blade.  I've found three references to William M. Brown, the date of his marriage, the date of the death of his wife, and an entry in the 1870 Sacramento business directory which lists him as a machinist.  After 1871, he seems to disappear from Sacramento records.

[KeepinOldBolts]

Lowes and Home Depot show a 6" blade (with std pin hole ends) as available in store for me, but what I see on the shelf is  the coping saw style (pin exposed) ends. I just fashioned a 6" blade for my close quarters vintage hacksaw out of a std 10" blade (by shorting and drilling) and called it done.

Nice saw!

[scottg]

Shows to go ya
 Not everything good was made in Mass! heeheheh
Really nice score. I don't know anything about it, except I like it a lot!

 With the size and weight of it, I might think a very thin very fine tooth blade for cutting ivory or tortoise.
 Maybe gold.
 A jewelers tool. 
 More than lopping off 3/4" bolts from a wheelbarrow.
  yours Scott

[Branson]

I don't worry about finding 6" blades much.  I cut my own to length mostly -- I have had a Pennsylvania pattern hacksaw for about 30 years.  At first, at least, I'll cut down some standard blades and punch a new hole to fit.  But thank you for looking!  I didn't expect anybody to think about that!

[Branson]

Yep, some good things were made out West too.  I liked it a lot myself.  And the running pig touch mark.  Who could resist that?  But the clincher was the Sacramento mark;  made by a home boy -- I couldn't let it languish among strangers!

I'm thinking a pattern maker machinist.  Our lad lived in close walking distance from both the docks with their steamboats,  and just about as close to the Railroad yards here.  (And about two blocks from the Congregational Church where he was married.)

[anglesmith]

Lovely tool, certainly made by a craftsman. It shouldn't be to difficult to make a period looking wingnut to replace the (non 1870) hex nut!
Graeme

[rusty]

After 1871, he seems to disappear from Sacramento records.

He may be in Los Angles..."Sixty years in Southern California" mentions a William M. Brown around 1873 or so, as third partner in a Newspaper venture. (Yarnell, Caystile & Brown, Pub The Weekly Mirror, to be The Mirror, (to be the Times-Mirror?)....

Could of course be coincidental....

[Aunt Phil]

6" blade would put it more in the category of a jewler's saw than a hacksaw.

[Branson]

6" blade would put it more in the category of a jewler's saw than a hacksaw.

You and Scott have both mentioned this, so I'm listening.  I thought of his listed occupation as "machinist" and was going down that road.   I need to find more evidence of this fellow.  I want to know where he came from.  I'm wondering how he met his wife, originally from Maine.  She was living in San Francisco when she married him, and kept in touch with her family (they had  her marriage and her death recorded back in Maine).   Did they already know each other before?  It's a little hard to believe a single woman with strong family ties would just come West alone.

[leg17]

I got this hacksaw on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370575719797?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I'm wondering how it ended up in Princeton, NJ.  It would take a 6 inch blade.  I've found three references to William M. Brown, the date of his marriage, the date of the death of his wife, and an entry in the 1870 Sacramento business directory which lists him as a machinist.  After 1871, he seems to disappear from Sacramento records.

What are these details?  Date of marriage, name and date of death of wife, etc.,.
Please give all you can.
Tom

[Branson]

There are two sources of the dates.  One is the Sacramento Daily Union newspaper, which lists the marriage on September 14, 1869, officiated by Rev.  I. E. Dwinell [of the Congregational Church].  William M. Brown of Sacramento, to Lottie A. Rogers, of San Francisco.  The notice of her death is given as (Feb 8, 1871):

"In Sacramento, Feb. 6th, Lottie A., wife of William M. Brown.
[Funeral from late residence, corner of Seventh and H
streets, on Wednesday, Feb. 8th, at 2 o'clock p.m.
Friends are respectfully invited.]

The second source is:

"Transcribed from Vital Records of Phippsburg, Maine" Sagadahoc County.
Lottie A., w. William, Feb. 6, 1871, a. 24 y. 8 m., in Sacramento, Cal., d. William and Sarah Rogers of P. N.P.4.

This source also records the marriage, but gives only William's address as Sacramento, CA.

The 1870 Business Directory for Sacramento lists William's profession as Machinist.

[leg17]

I found some info in census records but, unfortunately, nothing more specific on William BROWN.

William BROWN and Lottie A. ROGERS

1860 United States Federal Census
Name:    Charlott ROGERS    (Charlotte Augusta “Lottie”)
Age in 1860:    15
Birth Year:    abt 1845
Birthplace:    Maine
Home in 1860:    Phippsburg, Sagadahoc, Maine
Gender:    Female
Post Office:    Parkers Head

Name       Age
William Rogers    56
Sarah A Rogers    42   (nee CLIFFORD)
Charles T Rogers 20
Timothy Rogers 18
Abbie Rogers    18
Charlott Rogers    15
John H Rogers    11
Frank Rogers    6


1870 United States Federal Census
Name:    Wm BROWN   (William M.)
Age in 1870:    24
Birth Year:    abt 1846
Birthplace:    Connecticut
Home in 1870:    Sacramento Ward 3, Sacramento, California
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Post Office:    Sacramento
Occupation:   Machinist

Name       Age   Birthplace
Wm Brown    24   Connecticut
L A Brown    23   Maine

There are a half dozen named men in 1860 but not enough info (yet) to narrow it down.
I can not find him in 1880 or 1900.
He may have also died shortly after his wife.
I'll keep digging.

[Branson]

Dang!  You're good!  We got William.  Two William M. Browns in the third ward, both machinists is nearly impossible -- especially as this William is the only one listed as a machinist.

This is just great!   Thank you so much!

[Branson]

>He may have also died shortly after his wife.

Doubtful.  Lottie is buried in the Old City Cemetery, but William is nowhere to be found there.  I have found no death notices in Sacramento for him.