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Offline Todd F.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2020, 04:35:18 PM »
I picked this set up a while ago and wanted to share it. It’s a number 5452, 40-piece SAE tap and adjustable die set that appears in the Craftsman Tool Catalog from 1953 to 1957. This is before the “Kromedge” taps and dies. As far as I can tell, it’s the first set offered in a plastic case. The taps are unique in that the smaller taps have the Craftsman logo and size information stamped vertically on the shank but they differ from the older sets in the wooden boxes that have the logo vertical but the size info is horizontal.  These also have two stamped lines going around the shank at either end of the info stamp. The taps do not have the drill size stamped on them like the Kromedge taps.  The plastic case is also unusual. The upper tray lifts out as usual but the lower tray is not removable. It is a molded part of the case itself. This set appears to be 100% original with the exception of the screwdriver (of course).  Another unique feature of this set, and the early versions of the 5209 set, is the smallest tap and die are size 4-36 instead of the 4-40 in all of the following sets.  Catalog photo is from 1957. 

I have a second one of these sets that is incomplete with a broken case. I can part it out of anyone needs to fill in a set.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2020, 04:52:18 PM »
Nice tap and die sets. I love old Craftsman stuff, I don’t have any of their taps or dies though.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2021, 04:55:26 AM »
Hello, Jim. I thought that set configuration looked familiar!! Could that have been made for Sears/Craftsman by  Hanson??
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2021, 11:40:15 AM »
Looks like it. Craftsman never made anything themselves.
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2021, 05:24:54 PM »
Hey Todd,

Good to hear from you!  Nice looking set of vintage Cman taps and dies!  Great find!  Thanks for posting a few photos and a little bit of history too.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2021, 01:46:52 AM »
Nice sets. :smiley:

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2021, 04:40:31 PM »
I just got this one in the mail yesterday. It popped up on eBay and I had to grab it. Sorry if I bid against any of you. I paid more than I should have but I haven’t seen this set before.  It’s a 40-piece set that goes all the way up to 3/4- inch but does not have the machine screw sizes. The part number is 9-5212 and doesn’t show up in any of the catalogs I have (and that’s a lot).  There is a 9-5212C that shows up in 1969 but it is a 59-piece set that includes the machine screw sizes and easy-outs. I think this set is older than that. Here is my logic. Inside the lid of every Craftsman tap and/or die set, they have all the Craftsman tap and die sizes listed on a chart with the tap drill sizes. Even for the sizes that are not included in the set. The set I just got has that chart inside the lid as usual. The machine screw sizes are listed even though this set doesn’t include them. The smallest size listed is #4-36. Craftsman stopped using the 4-36 in 1962 and all tap and die sets from 1963 and after, came with a #4-40.  The die stocks have the sliding “fingers” on the guide instead of the pivoting “fingers” that were also introduced in 1963. My best guess is that this was sold in stores, or by some other professional channel, somewhere between 1959 and 1962. This set is in excellent condition. The only evidence of use is circular scratch on the large die stock. The tap wrenches were still gunked up with cosmoline and took some effort to get them moving again. If anyone has any information on this 5212 set, please let me know.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2021, 06:16:23 PM »
Beautiful set! 
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2021, 07:20:56 AM »
That’s a great looking set, Todd!  I suspect that it didn’t come cheap.  A very nice find for sure.

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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2021, 08:26:18 PM »
Here on the west coast there aren’t as many tool shows as the east coast or mid-west, and then there is covid, so I’m stuck with what I can find on eBay. These “Hollow Handle” sets were sold by Craftsman from 1962 to 1966 according to the Craftsman catalogs. I found the tap set about 2 years ago and I have been searching for the die set ever since. One finally popped up so here they are. There is also a machine screw set that remains elusive. As you can see from the pictures, the handles are hollow and hold the taps or dies inside. Then tap set is stamped “Made In Norway”. They are fairly heavy and appear to be cast then chrome plated. They come with the same standard Kromedge taps and dies that come in all the other Craftsman sets at that time. The catalog lists the five dies in the die set but there is room inside for one more, you’d think they could have sprung for 10-24 just to fill it up. Of course, back then the catalog price for a 10-24 die was 99¢.  Guess it was up to you to fill that empty space. The catalog picture is from 1964 hand tool catalog.
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2021, 06:43:28 AM »
Useful and gizmotic.  I like them!
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2021, 01:52:18 PM »
Hey Jim or anyone else.
I have what is probably a dumb question. Almost all of my Craftsman taps and dies have the letters "VM" stamped on them. I am assuming this is some kind of forge marking. Does anyone know what this means?
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Re: Sears/Craftsman SAE Tap and Die Set
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2021, 01:32:15 PM »
Hey Todd,

I’m gonna guess Danaher made the taps and dies.  Also, I sent you a couple PMs.

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