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Offline Bill Houghton

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Tape measures - some show and tell
« on: July 03, 2014, 04:27:42 PM »
When Dad was adding to our house – the addition he put on, starting when I was five, roughly doubled the size of the house – the measuring choice for room-sized carpentry was pretty much between a small, short tape measure and a six foot zig zag rule.  The modern tape measures large enough to choke an elephant were way far in the future.

I think Dad’s tape measure, and the hours I spent holding one end of it as he worked on the house, is most of why I got started picking up old tape measures at yard/estate sales.  I don’t have many; at least, I don’t consider 17 very many.  But they’re interesting things.  Here’s my herd.  I won’t talk about each one; just the highlights.

I’m starting, of course, with Dad’s tape measure, which I inherited when we broke up our parents’ house.  It’s nothing fancy – a simple little push/pull six footer from Evans.  That, and his no-name 30” wooden level, were his main layout tools, once the foundation and framing were in place (I suspect my grandfather, who helped with the foundation and framing, had larger carpentry layout tools; but I was five, and not paying close enough attention).

I’m showing my round and half-round tape measures next, because, as I understand it, the original portable steel tape measure was a loose springy measure that rolled up into a can resembling a chewing tobacco tin.  These are kind of the next logical step, keeping the shape while adding a spring.  The top tapes all have a plain steel finish on the tape itself that signals age (it took a while for manufacturers to realize that a painted finish was easier to read and more rust-resistant – or it may have taken a while for a sufficiently durable, flexible paint to come out of the paint labs).  The top left “Little Pal” is just three feet long; top center is a promotional piece from the Northern California Hardware and Steel Company in San Francisco; and top right has a ratcheting lock, released by the center button, a great idea about which the manufacturer was rather modest, since there’s no maker’s name on it.

The bottom two tapes signal the beginning of the move toward blockier tape measures.  Both of them have the familiar notation on the bottom indicating how much distance to add for the case when making inside measurements.

The third picture has some locking tapes.  This was a pretty important advance for people working alone – appreciated by anyone who’s tried to catch an edge with the tape from a distance, or had a non-locking tape suddenly roll up because an errant breeze knocked the hook loose.  The top left (now nameless, although I think there was originally a “badge” on the other side of the tape) has a slide activated by the red button and released by another button on the other side; the design is superior to Stanley’s Leverlock design, now an industry standard, because the tape has no tendency to slip when being locked.  The other three automatically lock when extended, rolling back when the center button is pushed (much like many vacuum cleaners retract their cords); the Lufkin has the added feature of a locking lever.

Picture four shows some tapes made by H K Porter, a conglomerate that gobbled up all kinds of companies in the 50s.  Three of the four – the top two “Chiefs” from Carlson & Sullivan (established in the early 50s to make tape measures, bought by Porter in 1955 and later folded into Disston) and the Disston bottom left – represent product names owned by Porter.  The bottom right tape is one of my favorite ever “gimme” promotional items.  I’m not sure why the Zoom cereal people (still in production, now part of Krusteaz/Continental Mills) thought a tape measure would increase the consumption of their cereal, but they did, and turned to H K Porter for help.

Finally, every organizational scheme needs room for “miscellaneous,” and that’s what we’ve got here.  I don’t know who made the top left tape, but I do know I like the Art Deco styling.   I couldn’t resist the top center tape when I found it at a yard sale, because the shape is such a nice pun on the advertising slogan.  The tape autolocks as it’s pulled out; the black button on the chimney (from which the tape issues) retracts it.  This is my only fractional/metric tape.  The top right tape is another promotional piece, this one from CT Engineering Corporation, which apparently provided contract personnel (temps, in other words) in Houston and southern California; the firm appears still to be in service, with a different focus.  I couldn’t do an essay on tapes without the ubiquitous Stanley Leverlock/Powerlock, so here’s one in the bottom left.  Finally, we have two little Lufkins from different eras, designed to drop in your pocket.  The red plastic one, bottom right, came as a freebie with the 25-foot Lufkin that lives in my toolbelt.  Lufkin’s slide lock is better than Stanley’s; like the button lock described up above, it doesn’t move the tape when activated.

These aren’t all my tape measures.  I realized after taking the photos for this post that I’d forgotten the tape in my car’s glovebox (there for yard sales, in case I have to measure something), and I didn’t bother to show the 25 foot tapes that we’re all familiar with.  I also have a couple of long tapes, a nice old leather-covered 50 footer from my uncle and the plastic-bodied Stanley 100-footer that I actually use on the job because I don’t care as much about getting it dirty.  And I have three folding (zig-zag) rules with slide extensions on one end, way better than tapes for inside measures; and a fourth all-metal zig-zag that unfolds to six feet, handy when I need a little more precision than the tapes offer.
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Offline skipskip

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 06:02:33 PM »
Nicely done

hope it stirs up some more show-n-tell.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 07:43:13 PM »
I enjoyed your presentation, very well done and very interesting,
thank you, Frank

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2014, 11:15:51 PM »
In 1982 when I became indentured as a sprinklerfitter apprentice they had to give you certain tools (we could not use personal tools.) They hsd to give us a 6 ft folding rule, but not a tape measure.  My company gave us 25 ft Stanley tapes anyway.

Now my most often used measuring tool is a Hilti laser type, along with a 6 ft folding ruler.  I buy one kind of hilti laser for some of our fitters and engineers and a different one for myself. Theirs cost ~$200.00, and mine cost $700.00. I learned that kind of trick while an apprentice also. If I needed a new 9" level I told my fitter. About half of them gave me the new level. The other half gave me their used level and they got the new level.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 12:28:13 AM »
A lot of those look familiar Bill, my Dad had a round one like those pictured but it also had a red button in the middle to lock. It was all steel, no plastic back then.

I scored a job while still in school and worked Saturday mornings in a small engineering shop, they had me cutting out sheet metal on a guillotine as my first job. Within the first hour I had successfully cut the end off Dads tape he had owned for years. He was less than impressed with me, and never really happy with the flash new replacement I bought him.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 08:08:46 AM »
Nice collection of tapes Bill! Your second photo really brings back some memories. I'm pretty sure the one in the lower left corner is the same one my dad had when I was a kid. Tape measures were still a bit rare around here back then, and there was no money for a new one. Hence, I never got to play with it as a lad. Not sure what ever became of it.


What brand is it if I may ask? (lower left)


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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 10:02:37 AM »
What brand is it if I may ask? (lower left)


Pretty sure it's a Lufkin...

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 10:37:39 AM »
The top left (now nameless, although I think there was originally a “badge” on the other side of the tape) has a slide activated by the red button and released by another button on the other side...

And I'm pretty sure this is an Evans...

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 01:48:24 PM »
Nice collection of tapes Bill! Your second photo really brings back some memories. I'm pretty sure the one in the lower left corner is the same one my dad had when I was a kid. Tape measures were still a bit rare around here back then, and there was no money for a new one. Hence, I never got to play with it as a lad. Not sure what ever became of it.


What brand is it if I may ask? (lower left)


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I'm sorry to say, Plyerman, that the brand name has disappeared from the tape.  I think it was probably on the center button originally, but is worn off now.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 09:21:28 AM »
Bill, very nice you have your dads tape !!

Here are a couple I have picked up.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 10:39:55 AM »
Heres 4 that were handy to find. The one may be an Evans but is too worn to tell. The Barlow was evidently a handout from a home interior company. Have a few more around but inertia has me.
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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 11:04:18 AM »
I have a barlow and some others that have 1/8" & 1/4" scale rulers instead of inches or centimeters. Better go dig for pictures.....

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 08:39:17 PM »
Chilly... I have my 1/8 and 1/4 " graduated tape measure. We used them "back in the day" when working on grid scale industrial plant layout boards. The standard scale was 1/4 ' = 1 foot. The tape was real handy when doing scale layouts that might be hundreds of feet long. "Back in the day" ... that's up till all that kinda' thing was taken over by the computer.

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Tape measures - more show and tell
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2014, 09:21:14 PM »
I keep finding these interesting little tape measures.  Today's score: a 50 foot Disston tape (Disston/Carlson), and an Atlantic.

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Re: Tape measures - some show and tell
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2014, 11:38:22 AM »
These are a couple of leather bound Lufkin Rule Co. steel tape measures I found over the years.  The 100-foot tape on the left was branded "Challenge" , and the 50-foot one on the right."Reliable". The "Reliable" tape was patented May  23, 1893 and December 17, 1907 according to embossed information on its leather cover.  My Dad was a civil engineer, and had a similar 100-foot tape, made by K & E, when I was a boy.  I took a civil engineering course as an undergraduate, and we used 100-foot tapes in field work.  So my guess is that such tapes were marketed to, and used by, civil engineers, among others, during the late 19th, and through much of the 20th, centuries.