The new antique store that is far too close to my house rated a visit a couple of days ago. Nice seeming folks. I'll have to go again to see if they have found the carton that has the Stanley planes ... But I found these pliers and couldn't leave without them. Six inch (nominally), smaller than any others I have, and in really good shape. Cleaning some of the usual muck off them, I found the Utica mark. It's the early mark that just reads, "UTICA N.Y. USA." No diamonds, no ovals. I really love this style of plier!