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Offline rusty

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 06:36:02 PM »

I would not have thought that was a millstone, because it is so small, but only a driven millstone needs a square hole. Someone did an unusually awfull job of repurposing it into a sharpening stone LOL
Just a weathered light rust/WD40 mix patina.

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2012, 03:02:01 PM »
 Heres a photo of some old griststones from central Il.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2012, 05:41:53 PM »

I would not have thought that was a millstone, because it is so small, but only a driven millstone needs a square hole. Someone did an unusually awfull job of repurposing it into a sharpening stone LOL
Well I found out today why it was so far off-center. The square hole isn't centered plus it goes thru to the other side at an angle. Its a mess, I measured and measured for hours today and made 2 plugs to fit, but still can't get the hole for the axil centered.
Thinking about filling a 5 gallon bucket with sand, place the stone on top of it and with some measuring, and plumbing, get the axil centered and pour some of that Durham wood filler around the axil. That stuff hardens like concrete and hopefully will hold.
I like a good challenge but had no idea I was gonna go thru all of this. I hope it works.
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 03:26:56 PM »
Finally got it pretty centered, that Durhams water putty was the answer.
Got a high spot in it so I'm slowly wearing it down.



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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2013, 05:04:27 PM »
I could see that rigged up with a motor and pulleys to cut the speed down. Would be one serious sharpening tool, maybe even put a water tray on it for cooling while sharpening. Interestingly, Japanese knife and sword makers used similar sized stones turning relatively slow to grind their blades (at least that is what Murray Carter says in his knife making videos).

Good job bringing it back to a usable condition!
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 08:35:52 AM »
You can see in your photos how the square block was put in the stone -- not a *perfect" fit, and secured with wooden wedges.  That's the first step.  Once it was the only step, and the block of wood extended far enough to become an axle (Roy Underhill has some photos in one of his books, and Eric Sloane has drawings in some of his -- I think in A Museum of Early American Tools)

Later the block was drilled for a metal axle, like yours.

The question is, is yours out of round, or off center.   Sandstone wheels must not be left to stand in water.  Notice in the article posted "Once sandstone is removed from the ground and "cured" (that is, its water or "sap" is dried out) it becomes impervious to water, salt..."  If it gets soaked in one area, that area will become softer, and will wear more than the rest of the stone.  As a result, the wheel will wear more rapidly than the rest of the stone, resulting in out of round.  The only way out of this is dressing the stone back to round.

If it is off center, then it needs only to be properly centered.   Not such a big deal.  Put the wooden center in place and fix it there.  After it is installed, then center and drill the axle hole properly.  There are drill stands that can rest on top of the wheel and its center block to drill a perfectly perpendicular hole for the axle. 

It will still need, probably, a bit of dressing to get it perfect, but nothing like the work necessary to get it out of round.

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:55 AM »
Its definitely out of round and is pretty close to being centered now.
So are you saying that if I keep the surface wet I can get it a flat surface faster than dry?
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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 12:02:24 PM »
Its definitely out of round and is pretty close to being centered now.
So are you saying that if I keep the surface wet I can get it a flat surface faster than dry?

No, rather that it having been left to *soak* some time in the past, for some rather long time, the stone in that area had become soft, and that is what put it out of round.  Older ways of getting water to the stone when in use were often simply troughs, and if the water wasn't emptied out after use, the stone just sat in it and was softened.

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Re: Mill Stone Corn Crackin' Question
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2013, 12:22:22 PM »
Its definitely out of round and is pretty close to being centered now.
So are you saying that if I keep the surface wet I can get it a flat surface faster than dry?

No, rather that it having been left to *soak* some time in the past, for some rather long time, the stone in that area had become soft, and that is what put it out of round.  Older ways of getting water to the stone when in use were often simply troughs, and if the water wasn't emptied out after use, the stone just sat in it and was softened.
Oh ok, so being left wet softened the stone and it wore the way it is now.
Its gonna take time but I'm gonna slowly attempt to get a flat surface again.
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