Champion Post Drill

[OilyRascal]

That's some creative thinking on the tool to remove the table.  I search daily for a wrench, and I'm not even certain there was a wrench specifically for the job...but I hunt.  You'll be the first to know if I find one :-)

Something about those Super A and Cubs that just sucker me right in.  For some reason, I can't muster up whatever it'll take to get the top coat on mine.  If I would, I'd be done with it's complete restoration.  But then what?  I'm not one for just looking at something and allowing it to escape it's duty.

[Rustn Dust]

A second wrench that may have come with my drill is for the chuck bolt.  You don't have to worry about that one.  I can't see exactly what it looks like, but at www.beautifuliron.com/thepost (I guess I'll find out if this was the right way to insert a link), there's a photo of one and it looks like it will fit in the palm of your hand.  Maybe a right angle square socket (not too up on wrench terminology, so don't know how else to say it).   Looks about the right size to be hiding in the bottom of a bucket of miscellaneous wrenches in the corner of somebodys shop.  Doubt I'll ever see one, or recognize it if I do.  I wonder if it's marked?

Thanks for the picture of the flywheel.  I always look for those at auctions, but was expecting that it might be 18" or 20" in diameter .  I haven't seen one of any size anyway.  But, I thought I would never find a table either, and eventually did.

How do you insert quotes in your posts showing what you are responding to?  I tried it earlier using the quote prompt on the original message, and the quote icon in the tool bar, but couldn't get either to work.

[Bus]

Link is

http://www.beautifuliron.com/thepost.htm

I might have the wrench what size is the set screw head?

[keykeeper]

That's some creative thinking on the tool to remove the table.  I search daily for a wrench, and I'm not even certain there was a wrench specifically for the job...but I hunt.

There is a wrench for lowering/raising the table. The large post drill at our blacksmith association shop has the wrench. I had pictures somewhere, just need to find them to post.

EDIT: Attached are a couple pics of the drill in the shop. I think the model is a 203 or 206. You can see the crank/wrench used to raise/lower the table at the bottom of each photo. It is laying on the table. To give an indication of size of this giant, the bit laying on the table is about 1" diameter/ 10" long if memory serves me correctly. The flywheel on top is about 20" diameter. This drill has a hand feed, auto feed and two speeds. You can also see that is was modified to run from a belt/motor setup by looking at the pulley added on the left side.

[Papaw]

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[Lewill2]

My 2 cents on the double V-belt pulley/sheave. The hub of this pulley/sheave has a taper lock style hub and I doubt that they were available when this drill was made. They taper lock hubs are still used today. The 2 opposing set screws tighten the bushing/hub to the sheave. The split inner bushings/hubs are available in all different shaft sizes so you can change the same pulley around if needed. This also reduces inventory for the manufacture. To remove the pulley/sheave you remove the 2 opposing set screws and place one in the third hole this hole backs the taper lock bushing out of the sheave. The dual purpose probably just means that it is a double sheave that requires the machine or piece of equipment to use 2 belts because of the HP or torque required to run.

[Rustn Dust]

It ends up looking like this.

Thank you sir!

[Rustn Dust]

EDIT: Attached are a couple pics of the drill in the shop.

Thanks for the photos.  It must be great to have access to that shop space.  Your drill's crank wrench looks pretty similar to the shop made one I have.  For my drill, I'm thinking about using a CI wheel with an attached handle.  I have some parts and pieces of smaller post drills that may work.

[Rustn Dust]

My 2 cents on the double V-belt pulley/sheave

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Worth a lot more than 2 cents to me.  After I learned the word sheave and checking them out a little, I suspicioned that third hole may have something to do with moving the pulley.  For awhile I thought I might have to look up Oily and borrow one of his pullers.  I've never seen anything like them around here.

I don't know how to date my post drill.  I don't think Champion Blower and Forge was in existence before the early 1900's, and may have lasted until the 1950's (I ought to research this stuff BEFORE I start the post).  I think there's still a Champion company under different ownership who makes/markets  industrial fans and blowers.  I remember reading somewhere that a lot of anvils were donated to scrap metal drives during WW II, and I would guess that was pretty much the end of the era for blacksmith shops anyway.  I always figured my drill was from the 20's, or 30's.  The one in Keykeeper's photos looks kind of like one pictured in an 1880 hardware catalog reprint I have.

[Rustn Dust]

I might have the wrench what size is the set screw head?

7/16" square head.  7/8" diameter counterbore ( outside wrench diameter).  I really appreciate your offer to look.  If your wrench is a keeper, just a good photo would be appreciated. 

[scottg]

Great drill!!
  I have moved a lot of those taper lock collars. Theory is that they self remove just taking out the bolts and reversing.  If it was stored indoors and coated in Neverseize this is exactly how they work.
  But in "real life" it takes heat.  Lots of heat.
  People always say to use a rosebud but careful application of a regular big cutting tip is fine if you watch your P&Q's.  Keep the tip moving!
  Rosebuds are safer but often very slow and waste a lot of gas, which costs a fortune now.   

 I see a lot of small post drills in this part of the country and had a couple over the years.
 Hardly ever a big one. 
  yours Scott

[rusty]

>People always say to use a rosebud ..

The other problem is most people don't have a rosebud anywhere as big as the cutting tip. Unless you regularly braze 1/4 plates together....

I always use the cutting tip to heat things these days, perhaps it is just being too lazy to change the tip, but mostly, I don't have anything else big enough to get the same heat out of.....

>gas, which costs a fortune now
Egads, tell me about it , yeash, you'd think it was vaporized gold..

>Hardly ever a big one
I have only ever seen one that large, and it was mostly missing, bolted to a beam in an old mill ...

[Bus]

I might have the wrench what size is the set screw head?

7/16" square head.  7/8" diameter counterbore ( outside wrench diameter).  I really appreciate your offer to look.  If your wrench is a keeper, just a good photo would be appreciated. 

The picture below is the only one I could find that looks similar and will fit a square bolt head that measures 7/16". It's not the one pictured but it's yours if you want it.

[Rustn Dust]

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