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Offline blackoak

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2015, 12:09:06 PM »
They are 5" long and the cutters only open up to 1/4", so whatever they were designed  to cut wasn't thick

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 12:25:23 PM »
The graphite cord would easily fit within that cutter, it is usually +/- 1/8".  The size I'm referring to is the  "diameter" of the serrated opening.  Is it about the same as what you see on the hose bib handle on your house?

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 01:27:20 PM »
Lock-out tags are different for plumbing than the ones they use for electrical.

I think in this case the tags were more likely tamper seals. Like the old seals they put on gas, plumbing, and electrical meters. Sometimes they were lead seals, sometims plastic tabs with wires, etc. They are designed to keep the public from accessing srvice connections. More for security back then rather than safety,  I think.

Some gas valves have weird handles. That first section might fit some valve perfectly. The 2nd section could fit a valve stem, just under a handle, and the hex could fit a oscking nut.  This all points to water, rather than gas, service.  So my modified swag is "water service or meter plier."

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 08:52:23 PM »
I can see these working for the type of tag Papaw showed us.
   When you shut down a machine or whatever are tags shown considered adequate in terms of lockout ? Don't you still have to have an actual lock on it ?

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 12:22:06 PM »
Requirements are different for different situations. A stationary tool may require panel lockout while working on it. A portable tool that needs repair might only require an out of service tag. Technically, what Papaw shows are tags, not lock-outs. Lock-outs require a shut-off or method of disconnect that is under the control of the person requiring the lock-out.

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2015, 07:25:26 AM »
The big opening looks like it would form a pentagon when closed.  Not a hex.  What would that be used on?

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2015, 02:53:23 PM »
Quite a few valves that are tamper resistant use 5 sided nuts - fire hydrants, for example.  I think that opening is more of a elongated pentagon - it seems like the sides are shorter than the bottom?

My guess is that it was a funny shaped handle that the pliers fit.

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2015, 07:21:24 AM »
The finish is similar to cast iron nutcrackers, rather than a forged tool, so I'd tend to look at kitchenalia for an answer...

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2015, 07:51:11 AM »
My WAG would be kitchen tool. Mason jar, ketchup bottle, nut cracker and general purpose snippers.
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Re: What is it??
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2015, 11:55:09 PM »
The finish is similar to cast iron nutcrackers, rather than a forged tool, so I'd tend to look at kitchenalia for an answer...
I'm pretty sure it's not cast cast. I did a little clean up on it and posted some better close up pictures of it in my original post.

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2015, 12:18:45 AM »
Is it my imagination or is something written here:



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Re: What is it??
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2015, 02:30:29 AM »
It does look like writing....

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Re: What is it??
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2015, 08:18:44 AM »
Maybe try a pencil tracing?
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Re: What is it??
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2015, 09:14:13 AM »
Is it my imagination or is something written here:





I'm guessing that section is to compress a spring retainer to release.
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Re: What is it??
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2015, 12:39:57 AM »
I checked it out with the most powerful magnifying glass I have under a bright light and could not make out any writing. I even did the pencil trick, but I found nothing