Thanks Gents. You are right John K. I have to take frequent breaks for my eyes to adjust and for my cramped hands to recover. Well Johns..., you have found my bucket : ) I took a little detour from miniature hand tools to miniature engines (solenoid powered) and explored that thoroughly for a couple years, and now I'm back to miniature hand tools. Scott, I am glad to have stumbled into you, having searched far and wide for craftsmen of miniatures tools and having found so few. I wasn't sure that my stuff would be appreciated when I eased into this forum. I am very pleased to meet you and glad to share. I took a walk through your web site and am incredibly impressed and immensely envious. Your stuff is incredible -- as good as I've seen anywhere and better than some museum pieces. I'd like to share thoughts with you sometoime. Do you display / show at any museums? Ralph