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Offline Stripped_Army_Bolt

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Patina vs. Rust
« on: February 04, 2012, 06:45:16 PM »
Folks, is it just me, or does it seem humorous that someone would consider outright RUST the same thing as patina.

"Evidence" of prior use and oxidation, in my humble opinion, is certainly not the same as "ACTIVE OXIDATION" (i.e. the continual degradation of an object).  I do not believe RESPONSIBLE cleaning of a tool to remove active rust, scale, dirt, etc. should remove the value of an object and preserve its integrity should be paramount.  The evidence (staining of the metal) will remain to attest to its age.

Of course, polishing (a gentle term for the actual abrasion of a surface to obtain either a more pleasing luster or surface texture) would understandably remove the HISTORY we revere in the tool.

Either way, which ever you chose, don't do it half-way.  If you are going to polish a tool to restore it, do a thorough job and take it apart and do it right (not just to make the digital picture look good.  If you are going to preserve a tool in its aged look, still take it apart and do a good job of removing the active oxidation in all the nooks and crannies.  Anything less, just leave it alone and advertise it "AS IS".

How do you folks feel?

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Re: Patina vs. Rust
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 07:07:35 PM »
We've had many discussions about cleaning and the various methods used. I agree with you about cleaning up rust.
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Re: Patina vs. Rust
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 09:07:14 PM »
I have changed my view on this many times.

Today I have 2 plans.

most "rust" is yuck and dirt and grease, many tools look much better with just a good soap and water bath

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If I have to de-rust something, I do just enough to get the brand and part number, next owner can clean it the way he wants.
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Re: Patina vs. Rust
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 07:20:18 AM »
Folks, is it just me, or does it seem humorous that someone would consider outright RUST the same thing as patina.
How do you folks feel?

Many years ago, maybe in regards to old guns, more poetic sellers referred to rust as "golden patina of age."   Now some sellers just aren't as poetic.
It's hard to say what's best.  A decent photo shows the difference between rust and patina, even if the seller doesn't know the difference.   Decent cleaning is a nice ideal, but some folks think decent cleaning means polishing steel until it looks chromed -- like the fellow who sold a Heller hammer a while back, noting that it *had* been marked Heller, but the "cleaning" had completely removed the mark. 

There are different tastes in cleaning up, so maybe it's best to leave on the "golden patina of age" and let the buyer clean to taste.