craftsman tools

[rayjay]

What year  did C-man start putting part #s on its tools?  Time lines for-v-, =v=, etc?  How make there tools etc? esp. ratchets.  Thanks

[bonneyman]

A gentleman over at The Garage Gazette has a stickey going with all the info you're looking for.

[eddie hudson]

Part #'s on sockets & wrenches first appear in the 1963 catalog. (Thanks Dave)

[lauver]

Part #'s on sockets & wrenches first appear in the 1963 catalog. (Thanks Dave)

eddie,

This is just not true.  I just went thru the 1963 catalog and there were no part numbers on sockets or wrenches.  To be clear, there are part numbers listed in the catalog, but not on the tool illustrations.

[eddie hudson]

Gary
I meant listed in the catalog.


Since the part #s are on the back of wrenches and sockets I don't think they are shown on any Craftsman catalog. (I could be wrong as I haven't looked thru all the catalogs in Dave's fine DVD)

[lauver]

eddie,

The early V marked tools like wrenches, sockets, extensions, handles, and ratchets did not have part numbers on them until about 1975 (Easco era).

Some other tools, like WF (Western Forge) marked screwdrivers had part numbers on them from as early as 1964/1965 when they started producing the Crafty screwdrivers and certain other tools like punches, chisels, pliers, and adjustable wrenches.

[eddie hudson]

Gary


I started buying Craftsman wrenches and sockets around 1075 and they all had numbers on them. I find it had to believe Sears would wait 12 years to put part numbers on their tools, while listing numbers in the catalog.


There has to be some old Phart on here that bought wrenches or sockets before 1975 who can straighten things out.

[rusty]

>I started buying Craftsman wrenches and sockets around 1075

Wow..and I thought I was an old geezer...

*chuckle*

[Papaw]

There has to be some old Phart on here that bought wrenches or sockets before 1975 who can straighten things out.

I was buying then, but always either used or even a few off the Snap-On truck. I had a long dispute with Sears over a credit card issue and didn't do business with them for a very long time!

[lauver]

eddie,

1st) I'm an old fart.

2nd)  I have a tons of Crafty V tools that date way before 1975, and as I said twice now, they do not have part numbers on them. 

3rd) I don't know where you get your ideas or information, but Sears did not start listing tool part numbers in the 1963 catalog. Sears had part numbers in their catalogs for at least six decades prior to 1963. The earliest Sears catalog I have is 1905, and guess what?  They had part numbers for everything they sold in 1905.

4th) Getting the part numbers in the catalogs was the easy part.  Getting the part numbers on the tools was much harder for many reasons.  I'll leave it at that.

Can we move on now? 

[john ray]

Thanks for your answers, I hunt old C-man ratchets and  old mechanics tools.

[eddie hudson]

>I started buying Craftsman wrenches and sockets around 1075

Wow..and I thought I was an old geezer...

*chuckle*

Yep, after the battle of Hastings in 1066 I wandered around the country for a few years and then headed back to the castle. I stopped by Sears and picked up a ratchet and some sockets to fix the draw bridge.

[eddie hudson]

eddie,

1st) I'm an old fart.
So am I.

2nd)  I have a tons of Crafty V tools that date way before 1975, and as I said twice now, they do not have part numbers on them.
I have many without numbers also, but I don't know how new the are.

As I told you on the old Craftsman board,  when I started buying sockets and wrenches around 1975, they all had numbers.

3rd) I don't know where you get your ideas or information, but Sears did not start listing tool part numbers in the 1963 catalog. Sears had part numbers in their catalogs for at least six decades prior to 1963. The earliest Sears catalog I have is 1905, and guess what?  They had part numbers for everything they sold in 1905.
I'm not talking about ALL Craftsman tools, I'm talking about V wrenches and sockets. Look in the 1962 catalog at the wrenches and sockets and you'll find no individual part numbers listed. Then look in the 1963 catalog and notice the numbers. That's where my information comes from.

4th) Getting the part numbers in the catalogs was the easy part.  Getting the part numbers on the tools was much harder for many reasons.
Getting numbers on the tools is almost as easy. All they have to do is tell the manufacturer to add them before the next production run.


 I'll leave it at that.
Me too.



Can we move on now?

[skipskip]

link to craftsman board, please

thanks

Skip

[eddie hudson]

Sorry Skip


If you were looking for a link to the old Craftsman board it's long gone.  All the people there were nice and friendly but the board itself really sucked. Sometimes it took 3 or 4 attempts to get something to post, and then other times there would be 2 or 3 duplicate posts. Some posts would disappear after a day or 2 (normal posts, not just ones that bad mouthed Sears)