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Title: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: skipskip on November 02, 2020, 11:12:21 PM
Looks like a gift the wife got  for Willie,  Christmastime.

actually kind of neat toy

sadly Mickey got to the box on this one

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50561209208_b97fefdce4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k2VpYm)nov004 (https://flic.kr/p/2k2VpYm) by Skip Albright (https://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: lptools on November 03, 2020, 04:13:34 AM
Nice find!!
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: coolford on November 03, 2020, 07:17:40 AM
Something I have never seen before, did you try it out?
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Bill Houghton on November 03, 2020, 10:39:38 AM
I had a similar one, two aluminum castings, but the wedge tended to lift out.  If you look at the homegrown ones, you'll notice the wedge and the angled board the wedge operates against tend to be beveled to mate with each other.  Search on "sliding wedge board clamp" on the interweb for examples.

That is, though, a cool find.
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Jim C. on November 04, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Something I have never seen before, did you try it out?

You know, I thought I had one of those somewhere, but I never tried it out.  I dug it out of a drawer.  I’ll report back.   :grin:

Jim C.
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Jim C. on November 04, 2020, 05:40:48 PM
Yes, when firmly screwed to a solid, heavy surface, the wedge vise holds a workpiece tightly.  I just planed a cut-off scrap of brick molding with no problem.  For small work, I’d say it’s functional.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Jim C. on November 04, 2020, 05:50:13 PM
Yeah, it’s a handy little jig as long as you have something to secure it to.

Jim C.
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: lptools on November 04, 2020, 07:27:36 PM
Thanks for the demo!! And for showing us your Shoulder Plane, and, is the other one a Bedrock??
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Jim C. on November 04, 2020, 07:41:59 PM
Thanks for the demo!! And for showing us your Shoulder Plane, and, is the other one a Bedrock??

No problem.  The shoulder plane is a #92, and you’re correct, the bench plane is a #604 bedrock. Good eye!

Jim C.


Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Bill Houghton on November 05, 2020, 10:07:18 AM
Interesting; the one I recently gave to the Habitat ReStore looks very like yours but never worked well for me.

I've seen pictures of people fastening those to a board and then fastening the board to the bench, so it doesn't need to be permanently on the bench.

Some of the pictures I've seen also suggest a board support that's the thickness of the base of the wedge device, so that the board comes into the slot level.
Title: Re: Defiance Wedge vise 1240
Post by: Jim C. on November 05, 2020, 11:03:37 PM
Hey Bill,

I don’t actually use the thing.  I had to dig it out from the bottom of drawer that holds small clamps.  I have no clue where I got it.   Like I said, it’s functional and it needs to be firmly secured.  It works okay on short boards standing on edge and short thick stock.  Longer, thinner stock is a little less easy to work for the reason you mentioned.  The thickness of the wedge base raises the workpiece just enough to create airspace under the center.  That creates a bow when you’re pushing a plane across it.  As the plane goes forward, once it gets to that unsupported section of the workpiece it bows down and the plane stops cutting.  Consequently one would need to shim the center of the workpiece to avoid that bowing action.  That’s a hassle.  But like I said, when comes to short stock, it works okay.  Keeping it permanently screwed to my main (and only) big work surface doesn’t make sense either.  I can’t even imagine how many times I’d curse it as it got in the way of something else I was trying to do.  I have since relegated it back to the bottom of my small clamp drawer.

Jim C.