Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Heads Up => Topic started by: mvwcnews on January 19, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
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The site doesn't say anything about provisions for absentee bids, or a catalog listing, but the photos show a predominantly implement wrench auction on the wrench side of things. - I spotted an item or two I've never seen before:
( http://www.baxterauction.com/2015/Feb14/Feb14.asp )
For example, I spotted a STORTZ combination wrench :
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=D28380&id=32078&set=1 )
Also lots of other tools, catalogs, collector magazines, etc.
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I see a few interesting catalogs there.
did not see any Ellis wrenches.
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I see a wrench in there you NEVER see. Looks like I have a road trip.
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I see a bunch of painted ones in odd colors. Are those colors correct for the tools?
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The paint hurts my eyes.I doubt any of the paint is correct.
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The site doesn't say anything about provisions for absentee bids, or a catalog listing, but the photos show a predominantly implement wrench auction on the wrench side of things. - I spotted an item or two I've never seen before:
( http://www.baxterauction.com/2015/Feb14/Feb14.asp )
For example, I spotted a STORTZ combination wrench :
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=D28380&id=32078&set=1 )
Also lots of other tools, catalogs, collector magazines, etc.
To the immediate upper right of the STORTZ is a Barcolo Kitchen multitool. In it's blackened state it shouldn't bring more than $5. (IMHO)
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The paint hurts my eyes.I doubt any of the paint is correct.
Was wondering about that myself. The orange in particular is eye numbing.
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There is a plierench sitting next to a perfect handle screwdriver that has peeling black paint. The plierench isn't very interesting.....
There is also an double ended Elmont Adjustable Wrench with the winged nuts in a box with what appears to be a Bahco wrench?
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It would be tough to do absentee bids on a lot of it, how much can you bid on a painted wrench from afar? There is at least one that would bring over $1,000, but being painted might make it a bargain for an in house bidder, as it might well be a brass repop painted to hide the brass.
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I see a bunch of painted ones in odd colors. Are those colors correct for the tools?
When the wrench club started, there was debate about painting tools to keep them from rusting. The bright color ones have likely had those coats of paint for at least a couple decades. Dad used spray lacquer but that yellowed with age. Some current collectors use flat black with white highlighting for markings.
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Does anybody know if Baxter gets beyond top prices like that Chupp in Shipshewana appears to get?
No sense of me going out there if the prices are beyond what you have to pay other places. Such as $1,700 for a 300-400 cutout.
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To go or not to go that is the question. Don't see anything I can't live without but its always nice to find a bunch of wrenchs in one location.
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To go or not to go that is the question. Don't see anything I can't live without but its always nice to find a bunch of wrenchs in one location.
I can live without all of them, but there is one VERY high end wrench (if it's not a repop) sort of hidden. Some oddballs I'd like to take a closer look at too. Plus at least 3 mid range wrenches that I don't find out my way. Still would give me an excuse to take a mid-winter road trip. I'm having auction withdrawals and they suck!!
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rustcollector, remember, coulda, woulda and shoulda.
yes, boring winter time can get to folks, you might meet some interesting people to mix with.
I have had remorse from not going somewhere that was on my mind, we only live once.
sometimes the smell of rust gets our system running again.
Frank
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rustcollector, remember, coulda, woulda and shoulda.
yes, boring winter time can get to folks, you might meet some interesting people to mix with.
I have had remorse from not going somewhere that was on my mind, we only live once.
sometimes the smell of rust gets our system running again.
Frank
The siren song of the classic enabler :grin:
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I'm sure I'd know a few collectors out there. Would cost me about $125 just in gas alone to go, would really like to know if I can actually plan on buying or if I'd just be a spectator. If I'm gonna spend that kind of money just to watch, I'd be better off saving it for a different sale.
I have 20 on my list that I could use for my collection. Another dozen or so I really want to see up close. And the one I just want to actually handle once, if it is the real thing.
The issue I see is that he's had similar auctions every year the past few years, and some wrenches in this one look eerily similar to the ones in previous years, and they are pretty scarce wrenches. Looks a bit fishy. I'd really like somebody to speak up that has had interactions with that auctioneer out there. I know he sells for Donnelly, but he is only working for him then, not for himself.
BTW, if you think the paint is bad on this auction, look at some of his completed ones. Had a Casaday cutout a couple years back, god awful color paint on it. Wish I had the money that I could ruin a $1,000+ wrench.
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I've been to Baxter's as well as to auctions he's called for Donnelly. If there are repeats it was because the consignor had a reserve that was not met. Or the last buyer is now a seller.
I asked -- Baxter is willing to handle absentee bids (I guess you'd have to snip a photo & highlight an item to identify what you were interested in. )
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For example, I spotted a STORTZ combination wrench :
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=D28380&id=32078&set=1 )
Also lots of other tools, catalogs, collector magazines, etc.
I went, and was not just a spectator by any means. I got the lot with the STORTZ because it was cheap, plus a few hundred others. Probably the best, possibly second best to the Marseilles 13 wrench was this one.....
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For example, I spotted a STORTZ combination wrench :
( http://www.datamp.org/patents/advance.php?pn=D28380&id=32078&set=1 )
Also lots of other tools, catalogs, collector magazines, etc.
I went, and was not just a spectator by any means. I got the lot with the STORTZ because it was cheap, plus a few hundred others. Probably the best, possibly second best to the Marseilles 13 wrench was this one.....
Neat!
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Good catch!
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Good catch!
Pun intended?...lol
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Yep. I bet you were in sheep's clothing, too!
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Sounds like you had a good time and got some good wrenchs.
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Rustcollector: I am glad to hear that you decided to go to the auction. by the sounds of your report,
you are very happy with you trip. good for you.
the Newhouse wolf trap wrench, did you just get that one there ??? if you did, nice grab.
thanks for the update, Frank
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Rustcollector: I am glad to hear that you decided to go to the auction. by the sounds of your report,
you are very happy with you trip. good for you.
the Newhouse wolf trap wrench, did you just get that one there ??? if you did, nice grab.
thanks for the update, Frank
I did get it there. It had ugly green paint on it, but I got most of that off. That was the wrench that I had stated that you never see come up for sale. You do see a repop come up, but I wouldn't give $1 for one of those. This one is the real deal. It's a NY wrench that I honestly never gave much thought to owning, always figured if I even did see one, I wouldn't be able to compete as far as price goes. However, when it sells and they don't have a clue what they have, you can buy right.
As far as the trip....oh boy.... Look up reports about accidents on I-70 in Ohio on Saturday, I was on those roads at that time. It was a mess. What should have been a 10-11 hour trip took 16 hours. But I'd do it all over again when I can buy wrenches like the wolf trap wrench.
I have a box full of extra stuff that I will be listing on ebay as well. Probably 100-150 farm implement type wrenches in the box.
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Probably the best, possibly second best to the Marseilles 13 wrench was this one.....
That one appeared for years (only as a drawing) as a "wanted" ad in the early MVWC Newsletters. That seeker never found one, so super congratulations on having a sharp eye. I'm putting your photo in the March MVWC Newsletter. - Regards, Stan S.
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I went back to the pictures of the box lots, way down the list was your wrench, yes, I can see
why you took the paint off of it.
as Stan stated about the want ad in the newsletter, I remember seeing it many times and
wondered why he never found one, now we know.
that was worth the trip alone.
your return trip home, yes, I had seen that pileup on the internet, also one I think in Indiana,
we had one here in Massachusetts on I- 95, but nothing like those two, glad you made it home
safely.
all that extra weight coming home might have helped you.
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Probably the best, possibly second best to the Marseilles 13 wrench was this one.....
That one appeared for years (only as a drawing) as a "wanted" ad in the early MVWC Newsletters. That seeker never found one, so super congratulations on having a sharp eye. I'm putting your photo in the March MVWC Newsletter. - Regards, Stan S.
Stan, if you want, I have the picture without the inserted lettering on it. If that would be better. As soon as I can convince the wife, I intend to make a shadowbox with the wrench and the copy of the catalog showing the wrench and have it proudly displayed in my living room. I talked her into one display, the Binghamton wagon one, but she's scoffing at having any more than that...lol
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what if you put both wrenches into one display ?
would she go along with that ? or make the display and put it in the living room
and see how long before she notices it.
OOPS, can she hear me ?
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what if you put both wrenches into one display ?
would she go along with that ? or make the display and put it in the living room
and see how long before she notices it.
OOPS, can she hear me ?
The problem I have is I have a fair amount of money tied up in the Binghamton wagon display, between the 2 wrenches and all the paperwork I've bought. I don't have a lot into the trap wrench, so it doesn't seem like a big deal to her.
BTW, I have to thank Dan Gaeier for that, he and I were the only ones that knew what that wrench was I think, and he seemed to only half heartily run me up a little on it, when he could have made me pay more. And not being a very nice person, what did I do, ran him up pretty high on a wrench neither of us had seen and both wanted. Sorry Dan, but I really would have liked the KY wagon mfg wrench too. He probably doesn't know that I did refrain from bidding on a couple he did end up with though, but they weren't as such big deal wrenches either.
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Stan, if you want, I have the picture without the inserted lettering on it. ..
No, the photo with inserted letters & rule is just fine -- I've already copied, gray-scaled etc. that one.
I wonder whose collection (s) Baxter was selling. Lots of those items had been in someone's collection for a long time - going back to the 60s or possibly even earlier.
Regards, Stan S.
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Wow, a Newhouse wolf trap wrench. (Even the name sounds cool!) Hard to imagine they once sold for 25 cents per pair.
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Wow, a Newhouse wolf trap wrench. (Even the name sounds cool!) Hard to imagine they once sold for 25 cents per pair.
With how rarely they show up for sale, I'd say they didn't sell well. Or they were lost easily, being that you would only be using it when setting the trap out in the woods or where ever you wanted to catch a wolf. 20 cents for what most trappers would have considered a "unnecessary" item in 1900+- would have been a fair amount of money to the trapper. Money better spent on a actual trap, which, btw, a # 4 1/2 newhouse trap would have been $3 at the time. In the same catalog, there is a Newhouse clamp, for holding the springs, wonder how many of those were sold back then.