Tool Talk
What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: johnsironsanctuary on November 01, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
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I saw this on ebay. It will probably go out before you see it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200979501429?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/200979501429?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
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Could be the cranking mechanism for a hand held seeder.
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given the size I will say paint mixer.
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I agree with FF some type of mixer? I saved a couple of pics so it can be discussed further as it sold.
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The crank arm is so thin looking. The closest thing I can think of is a rope winder. They usually had 3 fingers turning though.
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The base part looks like an X section. Like it fits in a round hole or even a hardy hole.
A paint mixer sound like a workable idea, except for the lack of paint spatter.
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If the central arm(s) is (are) adjustable for depth, I'd also go for a paint stirrer (or similar usage) - adjustable so that the strirrer stays below the liquid level - possibly missing a wooden handle on the square tang....
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Looks really Rube Goldberg for a paint stirrer -- using a stir stick would be a lot more practical. It's gotta be for twisting something -- something light weight. The casting and the gears were factory made. Maybe the rest of the thing too.
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It's an incomplete rope twister. Found discussion of a complete one at:
http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/21956-old-farm-tools/
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Never seen a rope maker like that. Looks more like a mop wringer.
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Looks like it is a self wringing mop according this link in that forum http://www.examiner.com/article/unusual-artifacts-usual-life-kitchen-tools (http://www.examiner.com/article/unusual-artifacts-usual-life-kitchen-tools)
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Right ON bill300 d
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If it is a rope maker's tool , it's for twisted straw rope, used as packaging etc - a single twist is all that is required (unlike three strands in common rope) - in the UK the tool used is a wimbrel, just a plain crank (like a hand brace) with a hook on the end... Some have a loop so they can be hang from a hook on the wall, leaving a hand free to feed the straw...
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Look at the OP tho, the handle is shorter than the fellows thumb ?
Awfull tiny mop...
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Curiouser and curiouser... The one John posted from eBay doesn't have enough handle to be a mop, nor does the one I posted yesterday. Maybe the handles were lopped off for re-purposing. As a "mop twister, " it still looks on the Rube Goldberg side of things. On the other hand, one of the folks who responded on that list wrote, "Rope twister it is. Made one years ago to make rope out of surplus baling twine. A similar one is used in Nevada where I ranched to make horsehair rope. "
It looks pretty complicated for either task actually. Whichever it might be, there's gotta be a patent on the contraption, and at this point, I think that's the only way we will know for certain. Maybe they're both wrong and it's for something like pulling taffy...
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>gotta be a patent on the contraption
There are hundreds and hundreds of mop wringer patents. One might get the impression that civilization had come to a screetching halt pending the invention of a proper way of wringing out a mop, and hundreds of inventors were furiously trying to solve the problem....
'twister' is hopeless, there is a textile machine named a twister, there are thousands of patents :(
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hmm, patent classes are your friend - duh-
This is likely the one Branson posted....
(I found half a dozen gear driven mop wringers )...
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Additional patents for right angle gear driven mop wringers
(covers only a 15 year span, seems to have been somewhat of a fad...)
77639 (http://www.google.com/patents/US77639) Improved mop-wringer. ; Mills,W.R.
699953 (http://www.google.com/patents/US699953) Mop and wringer therefor. ; Hilker,E.
704132 (http://www.google.com/patents/US704132) Mop holder and wringer. ; Smith,A.W.
704133 (http://www.google.com/patents/US704133) Mop holder and wringer. ; Smith,A.W.
716417 (http://www.google.com/patents/US716417) Combined mop and wringer therefor. ; Hilker,E.
744196 (http://www.google.com/patents/US744196) Combined mop and wringer therefor. ; Hilker,E.
752679 (http://www.google.com/patents/US752679) Combined mop and wringer. ; Hilker,E.
758753 (http://www.google.com/patents/US758753) Combined mop and wringer. ; Hilker,E.
775463 (http://www.google.com/patents/US775463) Mop or wiper. ; Thomas,H.O.
781849 (http://www.google.com/patents/US781849) Mop-holder. ; Smith,A.W.
790988 (http://www.google.com/patents/US790988) Floor or wall wiper or mop. ; Thomas,H.O.
820145 (http://www.google.com/patents/US820145) Combined mop head and wringer. ; Shobe,J.S.
847123 (http://www.google.com/patents/US847123) Combination mop and wringer. ; Rosser,H.L.
848781 (http://www.google.com/patents/US848781) Combined mop head and wringer. ; Thomas,H.O.
897465 (http://www.google.com/patents/US897465) Combined mop and wringer therefor. ; Bilker,E.
973612 (http://www.google.com/patents/US973612) Mop attachment. ; Arrant,W.E.
989315 (http://www.google.com/patents/US989315) Combined mop head and wringer. ; White,G.S.
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Don't have a clue how it actually works (maybe the whole tool is a mop and wringer, missing its mop) - but found this one on a Google search.... all you keen folks in the USA can search the patents database for this one as patent date and makers are shown...
Ooops, sorry - hadn't read the above comments on page 2 before I posted this...
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Couldn't wait - Hilker's Patent Combined Mop and Wringer - US 758753 A
PATENTED MAY 3, 1904.
E. HILKER. COMBINED MOP AND WRINGER.
APPLICATION FILED MAY 28, 1903.
Patented May 3, 1904.
EDIVARD HILKER, OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.
COMBINED MOP AND WRINGER
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The wooden model I've posted above was patented earlier:
US 716417 A
Description
No. 7l6,4l7. Patented Dec. 23, I902.
E. HILKER.
COMBINED MOP AND WRINGER
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Now we know what it is, the examples are comomng thick and fast - here's one on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Hilker-rag-mop-w-crank-wringer-/290978352909?nma=true&si=MHYqihkfBpqzonMlgWbm5488bUQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Called elsewhere a rag mop, as opposed to a string mop that is common today, I guess the mop was made of strips of old cloth that hang loosely from the hook, pass over the support and round the other end loop. In use they hang down, below the head, but to wring them out the handle is turned and they are pulled taught over the intermediate support, which also swivels out of the way as the mop is tightened.... So yes, you do keep your hands dry....
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This changes everything! I think that we need to change the site name to"PAPAWSMOPWRINGER" as soon as possible! OK, maybe not, but now we know how vital mop wringer technology was to the development of the machine age.