Tool Talk
Woodworking Forum => Woodworking Forum => Topic started by: Lostmind on September 30, 2013, 08:59:11 AM
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My wife found these at a sale. I don't collect wood working tools.
I need help with the Manufactures name of the brace and an idea of worth so I can offer it for sale to
a collector.
Also need the proper name of the circle cutter. Is it for wood or leather?
Are the Bit extensions hard to find or have any value?
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The long thing looks like an auger bit extension. Try your gasket cutter in the end, it should fit.
Mike
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extrapolating from the odd assortment of tools she brought home, what can we guess about the sellers profession?
woodworker? furniture? leatherwork?
Dentist?
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extrapolating from the odd assortment of tools she brought home, what can we guess about the sellers profession?
woodworker? furniture? leatherwork?
Dentist?
Possibly cook also, this was in the mix
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CA & Co was the foundry mark of Cyrus Alger, Under the company name of South Boston Iron Co. (S.B.I.C is a more rare mark)
They made cannon balls for the war of 1812, and bronze cannon for the civil war, among other things.
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extrapolating from the odd assortment of tools she brought home, what can we guess about the sellers profession?
woodworker? furniture? leatherwork?
Dentist?
The assortment doesn't suggest a profession to me. The brace and the extension (Millers Falls made one in this pattern) work together, and the brace and the gasket cutter work together, but the extension and the gasket cutter?
That last little tool is, I think, a cobbler or harness maker's burnisher of some sort -- there are a number of odd looking burnishers in that trade. Can't see a use for it in a kitchen.
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Don't know about burnisher. I'll check it out. I thought it looked like a can opener.
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the bit is called a "treepanning bit" could cut leather or soft metals water pump leathers come to mind.
the small burnisher look a little like a edge tool used on leather?
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Old rule of thumb.
"When you can't identify a tool, its probably a leather tool,
or else coopers tried it and didn't like it" Hehehehehe
The little knife/burnisher sure looks leatheroid to me!
The washer cutter was probably made for leather and probably made mostly for pump leathers. Think long handle barnyard hand water pump.
The extension likely had nuthin to do with nuthin, but it looks like a good extension anyway.
22 inches a long one!
The brace is not a super common model or else we all would have seen them before.
First I am personally seeing (unless I saw one once and forgot, which is entirely possible) heeheheheheheh
yours Scott
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll be busy researching. I had no idea where to start. I learn a lot at this site.
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If you're able to confirm that the brace is old, you might get something for it; braces in general, except for the flavor-of-the-month brace, the Yankee 2100/2101, don't go for much.
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I was researching the brace , and I found a newspaper article from 1881 that stated Cyrus Alger & Co.
became South Boston Iron Works in 1827. Does this look like a style from pre 1830's ?
There is a book available with the patterns of Cyrus Alger and CO. , I may order it through the library.
I see hundreds of braces throughout the year at flea markets , but nothing this style or age.
I don't sell on ebay , so probably will never achieve " Top dollar" , what ever it nay be.
It's available to a wood work collector if there is any interest.
Thanks for the input
Roy
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Cyrus had other , unrelated patents in that date range, including at least one lost (missing X) patent, so as initial guess for date range? yes.
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I was researching the brace , and I found a newspaper article from 1881 that stated Cyrus Alger & Co.
became South Boston Iron Works in 1827. Does this look like a style from pre 1830's ?
Roy
No, it doesn't. It's much, much later. The standards through most of the 1800s had only a tapered square hole into which the bit slid, and was held either by engaging a slot cut into the bit or by a thumbscrew. Professionals tended to use the former because changing the bits was just a matter of pressing a button or lever. Thumbscrew models were made initially for "gents" and amateur workers, and later were made as cheaper models. I have never seen a ratcheting brace that wasn't a good deal younger than the Civil War period.