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Blacksmith and Metal Working Forum => Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum => Topic started by: CrankingCastIron on August 19, 2013, 01:49:53 PM
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Does anyone have any information/pictures of a complete Champion No. 25 Drill Press. I bought one and know it is missing some pieces, but need to see what the missing parts look like so I can find or fabricate them. I know the table and both cranks are gone. I believe there used to be a three section step pulley that the previous owner cut off. I would think there would be some sort of mechanism to change from high to low gear as well. Any help that you could provide for me would be greatly appreciated.
Cris
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http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=199&tab=4
There's an assortment of drill presses on this link that may help.
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The information, and pictures, I have on Champion drill presses is contained within this thread. http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=4279.msg26732#msg26732
Like you, the one I found has its missing parts.....but the table was in place as was most everything else but the "feed arm". Hope this helps.
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I'll have to check my reprint catalog when I get home. If it's in there, I'll make and post a scan of it for you.
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I have found a couple of these in my travels, but left them in situ, as I didnt know I should be 'collecting' them.
Usually they are bolted to a wall in a garage or barn and can be had for not much $$.
But ... then what?
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Then you take it home, bolt it to a post, and put a piece of 1/2 inch steel plate in it and drill a hole.
At which point you aquire, for free, an intimate and complete knowledge of why mankind spent the last several hundred years inventing the electric drill.....
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Very true, but the blacksmiths of old didn't have much steel plate to drill, they worked with mostly soft iron, soft is a relative term. I have a simple little drill press, that surprises people at meets, as it drills through 1/4 in. mild steel quite easily, its all in the sharpness of the bit and the pressure, not in the speed the bit is turned. I have a couple of good post drills, as these old hand cranked units are known, before buying, check the spindle for tightness. They do not have bushings or bearings, its a steel shaft running in cast iron, and when it is worn enough, a straight hole cannot be drilled. When the electric motor became available, lots of these were converted to power drills, which simply wore them out even quicker by turning the shaft faster than ever intended.
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I'll have to check my reprint catalog when I get home. If it's in there, I'll make and post a scan of it for you.
So far it looks like you are my only hope! I can't find a picture or an old ad for this drill press on the internet anywhere, Where did you find a reprint of an old catalog?
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So far it looks like you are my only hope! I can't find a picture or an old ad for this drill press on the internet anywhere, Where did you find a reprint of an old catalog?
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At a blacksmith conference. They were selling them to raise funds. It doesn't have everything they made, but several. I'll check soon as I can.
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You might want to check with these folks:
http://www.beautifuliron.com/images/Drilling/Champion/ChampionPage21section.jpg
Centaur Forge sells reprints of the 1909 Champion catalog which shows the #25 post drill:
http://www.centaurforge.com/The-Champion-Blower-Forge-Co-Catalog/productinfo/BK473/
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Cranking,
This is a scan of a page from a reprint of an old Champion catalog. It shows the 25 Champion post drill. As best as I can tell, there were options on the 25 of power driven or hand driven available.
Bill D.
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Try checking the Anvilfire web site and look in their book section.
Mike
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Here is the scan I promised a few days ago. I located my reprint, and made two scans. Hopefully they take some of the mystery out of what you have there. One is the picture, the other the description as it was printed below the picture. Enjoy.
Bill's scan was a little small, so I hope mine helps a little. Looks like the same catalog page, I just scanned them into a larger size. Click the pictures to enlarge them.