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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: HeelSpur on August 18, 2013, 09:03:57 AM
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The top wrench is unmarked and has a smooth hole what is the purpose for this hole?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2550/hedx.jpg)
The bottom 3 are marked.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img443/5140/og2j.jpg)
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Ventilation??
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Ventilation??
I reckon if your holding something hot the heat can escape thru the ventilation hole :-)
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Several decades ago, a fellow with increadable foresight said to himself, in the future there will be folks who collect pliers. And those folks will want to know everything about them. Who made them, why they were made, and what they were used for. So he decided to drill a large utterly useless hole in a perfectly good pair of pliers, knowing that, in the future, some poor fellow was going to pull out all his hair trying to figure out what the pointless hole was for....
Or it could be for crimping brass hose ferrules...
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Several decades ago, a fellow with increadable foresight said to himself, in the future there will be folks who collect pliers. And those folks will want to know everything about them. Who made them, why they were made, and what they were used for. So he decided to drill a large utterly useless hole in a perfectly good pair of pliers, knowing that, in the future, some poor fellow was going to pull out all his hair trying to figure out what the pointless hole was for....
Or it could be for crimping brass hose ferrules...
So which is it :-)
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It appears to be for crimping gas pipes. It is known as the gas hole.
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They seemed similar to gas pipe pliers but that hole threw me off.
Most that I've seen look like this.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img9/9813/z8gy.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/3935/f5d4.jpg)
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Later edit: I was wrong. Looking over HeelSpur's two posts, he was asking about the pliers after all. Sorry.
We're wandering off course. HeelSpur's asking about the wrench, not the pliers. The top wrench in the photo has a countersunk hole in it. The pliers were probably included in the photo just for entertainment value.
I've seen - well, actually, I've got - automotive wrench sets with a hole in the middle, the whole set held together by a bolt and nut. That way, instead of losing individual wrenches in the mess in the trunk, you could lose the whole thing. Much neater. But the location, and the countersink, make me think that's not the purpose of this hole. I am mysticated.
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Oh!..The wrench....duh ;P
The countersink is probably just a casting artifact, tapered hole so it would cast nicely..
Assuming it is for some impliment or such, perhaps for a clip to attach it to the machine so it wouldn't get lost....(stud and wingnut?)
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The top wrench is unmarked
I took it to mean the pliers because the top wrench IS marked 1893. Looks like a snath wrench.
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The 1893 wrench came with lawn mowers (the old reel type) made by Dille & McGuire Manufacturing Co. of Richmond, Indiana. Usually the holes in wrenches were for hanging it on the machine or on a wall.
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Later edit: I was wrong. Looking over HeelSpur's two posts, he was asking about the pliers after all. Sorry.
We're wandering off course. HeelSpur's asking about the wrench, not the pliers.
Oops, I was referring to the pliers but I see I wrote down wrench.
Got some additional info though.
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What size is the hole? It may be for smoothing up something you boogered up with the pliers teeth. I often could have used something like that.
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Gas pliers were used by gas fitters for fitting gas lights, fires etc. Originally (at least in the UK) this was done in lead pipe, approx 3/8" OD, 1/4" bore - lead pipe easily deforms, so the hole could be used to true up the end of a deformed pipe. Mostly brass fittngs were soft soldered into the pipe - pipe fitters often had a multi tool 3/8" x 26TPI (Gas Thread) reamer, tap and die to clean up fittings. If the fitting was already soldered into the pipe, he would not want to mark the pipe by gripping it in serrated jaws....
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*Sourced from http://www.wrenchingnews.com/sell-page/sell.html (http://www.wrenchingnews.com/sell-page/sell.html) about 2/3 down the page*
Dille & McGuire 1893 Wrench - Richmond, Indiana
Dille & McGuire 1893 Wrench Image
Markings side one: "1893".
Markings side two: No markings.".
Length: 4 inches.
Reference: Hardware Jobbers Catalogs. Not in Rathbone.
Condition: Excellent.
Price: $12.50 (ref: MC/3-5)
This little wrench has been misidentified for years. The 1893 has been interpreted as the date or as a rifle model (one was on Ebay a couple years ago with a fresh, fake Winchester stamping) but recently parts list discovered in hardware catalogs from the Townley Metal & Hardware Company of Kansas City, Missouri and the Shapleigh Hardware Company of St. Louis correctly identified it as being one of the tools for lawnmowers manufactured by Dille & McGuire of Richmond, Indiana.
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OK, Papaw,,,I'll bite,,,,what is a "snath"????
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We have discussed them here plenty-search for snath on Tool Talk's search bar.
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snath or snaith????
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Someone said that it was only acceptable to use 'snath' in everyday conversation if you own one. I agree. I did a little searching and came up with this:
Father Lamson
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Father Silas Lamson was a 19th-century American eccentric who would appear at abolitionist meetings, in a long white beard and white robe, and carrying a large scythe, in the fashion of Death or Father Time. One account of an abolitionist meeting includes this anecdote:
…the regular speaker not having arrived, the venerable Father Lamson entertained the persons present with a speech on things in general, which was frequently interrupted by mingled applause and hisses.
Another account reads:
When Father Lamson appeared in a reform convention, it was a serious matter. He was serenely proof against all blandishments and threats. In a world of free speech he meant to have his say, and at such length and in such phrase as the spirit might move, and the experienced knew what length and what phrase the spirit would move. It was generally necessary to remove Father Lamson. But who would bell the cat? He had great solemnity of visage and a long white beard, and when a pair of the young and stalwart brethren, an impromptu police, approached him to assist his orderly and peaceful departure, he lay down deliberately, and could be voided from the meeting only by being borne out at length. This was among the humors of anniversary week, although Father Lamson’s avatar was usually in Boston. How readily might the wicked reporter, to whom he was a boon, as he muses upon the storms and passions and humors and results of those old days, smile ruefully as he recalls that figure of old Father Time…
Silas Lamson invented the curved scythe snath.
If we put Papaw in a long white robe and give him a scythe to hold, hhmmmmm.