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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: Helleri on August 07, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
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No clue what this is. It takes up about 15.6 cubic feet of space, with a 6.25 square feet. It weighs 55.6 pounds, the rims are about 22.5 inches diameter. It has some damage (a part of it's kick stand is obviously missing and aside from that some small spots on the rims are eaten through with rust). It has no marks anywhere that I have been able to find. I got it to attach my steamer trunk to it as a sort of tow-able storage (would also have to put a ball hitch, and rig it up for signals/lights or something once repaired...sort of a long term project). But, I really don't know what this was a part of and would like to before Frankenstein'ing it into something.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/Xemem/WB1_zps8014343c.jpg)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/Xemem/WB2_zps855cf3b2.jpg)
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How wide are ladders in the US?? It would make a great ladder trolley - using the end of the ladder to push/pull it.... But too wide for ordinary ladders found in the UK..
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home made dolly of some sort with old buggy springs.
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A ladder here might fit it...but seems like a long way to go to move a ladder. Those clamps on the side turn out and adjust up and down. It looks like they used to hold poles or something (maybe an assembly for pulling/pushing it?).
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I think possibly fire apparatus?
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ooo... that's an interesting thought. It could accommodate some sort of tank in the center, and two pulling rods. has a similar basic shape...hmmm maybe.
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It could be a rickshaw.
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Looks like a rickshaw to me. Never gave that a thought. I couldn't figure out what the springs did in fire apparatus. Looks like Papaws got it.
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yeah that is almost exact in how it is setup...I see the carriage part actually mounts to the poles, which would explain why there is only a place for poles to mount.
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Those look like very old motorcycle wheels. If they are, they may be worth selling.
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More like bicycle wheels, which is why I am sure it is a rickshaw.
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Looking at the form of it versus images of rickshaws I think it matches up almost perfectly. It's built the same way most of the ones I have looked at now seem to be. the two eye shaped suspension setups, sitting atop a square shelled axle, with those mounting clamps and rod rests sitting at the top. It lines up with so many images...the wheels on this thing definitely don't. They just seem so tiny for it, and comprise about half it's weight. So yeah probably wheel replaced on it from something else. who knows maybe the wheels are off a motor cycle...this makes me want to find the right wheels for it.
Also I just discovered it folds up (well it would if not froze up, lol)...There are wing nuts (one snapped off) that hold a sleeve down over a piece connected to the wheels...this thing at one time could have it's wheels fold up under it.
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I don't know the name, but there is a type of very lightweight cart used in horseracing that uses smaller and slightly heavier wheels on a rickshaw type chassis. The seat was a cloth sling of sorts.
The one I seen was able to be broken down and packed smaller in a truck, used tires like you used to see on the old mopeds.
Was this found where one might find horses at all nearby?
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Some people have horses here. I don't know if there were any more or less in the past (I know there were a decent number of donkies). I live in the santa cruz mountains, this was a logging town once upon a time. The piece was up in the hills on the back end of the previous owners property. It was by itself from what I understand and the owner didn't know if one of his relatives put it there or if it was there before they owned the house.
...just got it loose so it could fold up a few minutes ago.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/Xemem/WB5_zps9a39c3e7.jpg)
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I'm inclined to go with a rickshaw or something similar on this as well. The two wheeled horse racing cart is called a sulkie (or sulky). Looking at google images, they all look to be built lighter than this, i.e. no springs. Makes sense, as weight would be pretty critical if you were racing. Unnecessary fact - one of my uncles retired as a security guard at a sulkie racing track near Buffalo, NY.
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Not motorcycle wheels- too narrow and no provision for brakes.
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22.5 inch rims are really uncommon. (unheard of) Common bike rims are 20” 26” 27” and now 29” along with 700MM for road bikes.
24” is a standard as well but uncommon.
If you are measuring total outside diameter you would need to subtract the tire mounting surface, that would make it an actual 21.5” tire/rim….never seen it.
possibly metric at 550mm but that would be very, very odd/old.
It does look just like the rickshaws, and clamping diferent "bodies" on a common undercarrige makes sense.
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Based on pawpaws pictures and other pictures I looked up earlier today I am thinking rickshaw.
Very near find.
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Wheels seem too small, and attachment point too high for a rickshaw, and why make it fold up?? I still go for a set of wheels for transporting some thing, folds up to save storage space when not in use...
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Just Googled, 22" rims are available as well
European sizes 457 mm 22" x 1.75; x 2.125 see: http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
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I helped a friend build something very close to this for moving his 20' teepee and poles. We went with out springs at first but was hard on the poles, so we added buggy springs.
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I have a question, on that folding (kick stand). Is it one legged? Or is the second broken off? If it were a rickshaw, and the leg of the kick stand was to the rear, it would keep it from toppling over backwards, the weight of the shafts would keep it leaning to the front the rest of the time.
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Whatever its origins, I'd say before that was dumped out back some lucky kid had a goat cart a few decades ago.