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Title: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: skipskip on July 24, 2013, 10:34:59 AM
BIG shear for sale at local auction.

should I buy it? what to look for?

can I move it with ordinary equipment?

http://www.collarcityauctionsonline.com/servlet/List.do?auctionId=40&startLotId=669&lotId=669&page=info#
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on July 24, 2013, 10:59:04 AM
Depends if you are buying it to use it or resell it.  Is it single or 3 phase? It looks like it probably works. Try to move the top blade looking for badly worn pins. Look for major chunks out of the blade. Dull can usually be sharpened. Start it if you can. Listen for nasty motor and drive noises. I can't tell what it has for a clutch.  Check that it works. Has the frame been cracked and welded? If it is open gears, are they worn out or missing teeth? If it is a closed gearbox, how bad does it leak? Was it used in a steel fab shop or a scrap yard. If it was in a scrap yard, it is probably pretty tired all over. See if you can find a tag that gives the rated thickness that it will cut. Usually with those, if it fits in the jaws, it will cut it.
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: rusty on July 24, 2013, 06:20:34 PM
The Dayton Foundry & Machine Co went away in 1915 guy....
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: skipskip on July 24, 2013, 06:35:39 PM
The Dayton Foundry & Machine Co went away in 1915 guy....


that might explain why they haven't answered my emails
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: skipskip on July 24, 2013, 06:40:41 PM
Depends if you are buying it to use it or resell it.



resell

 Is it single or 3 phase?


single phase late model motor

 It looks like it probably works. Try to move the top blade looking for badly worn pins. Look for major chunks out of the blade. Dull can usually be sharpened

I'll look more closely, thanks

. Start it if you can. Listen for nasty motor and drive noises. I can't tell what it has for a clutch.  Check that it works. Has the frame been cracked and welded? If it is open gears, are they worn out or missing teeth?


open gears, but in a OSHA style cage, hard to get too personal

 Was it used in a steel fab shop or a scrap yard. If it was in a scrap yard, it is probably pretty tired all over.


in its life prolly all of the above, it's last owner was a building contractor

 See if you can find a tag that gives the rated thickness that it will cut.

I'll look, any ideas where to start?

 Usually with those, if it fits in the jaws, it will cut it.

I bet.

any idea the weight, will a regular flatbed tow truck do it?


Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on July 25, 2013, 08:08:50 AM
If Rusty is correct, this old shear is about 100 years old.  I'm betting that it will last another hundred. I went through some of the auction items. Will everything go that cheap?
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: skipskip on July 25, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
. I went through some of the auction items. Will everything go that cheap?

Prolly not.

It's an odd auction format.

On Line for a week

one day, mid week, you can go see the stuff.

bidding will end next Sunday,

I seldom get great deals on these, last time I got one item ( huge electric welder, weighed 500 pounds, didn't work, $25)
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on July 31, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
Did ya get the shear or anything else?
Title: Re: need advice on big shear purchase
Post by: skipskip on July 31, 2013, 12:02:46 PM
Shear went for $4000, too much for me.

I did get a "valve grinder set"

 it wasn't exactly what I was thinking, but pretty cool nonetheless


(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3816/9410450316_7359683849.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/9410450316/)
JUL 244 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/9410450316/) by skipskip (http://www.flickr.com/people/skipskip/), on Flickr


and an old sign

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/9407721435_ff723a76a6.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/9407721435/)
JUL 259 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/9407721435/) by skipskip (http://www.flickr.com/people/skipskip/), on Flickr