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Title: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: HeelSpur on July 20, 2013, 06:46:23 PM
Twins but not identical.

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Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: Lostmind on July 21, 2013, 09:59:52 AM
I had a pair like the ones on the right in my hand today , but laid them back on the table.
I thought the were for tire chains.
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: rusty on July 21, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
Interesting to have both versions :)

The thumb screw seems to be later....

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=130853&typeCode=0
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: Branson on July 22, 2013, 07:56:54 AM
Maybe I'm really missing something fundamental here, but it seems to me that there are more hog ring pliers than there ever were hogs.  They seem to be everywhere.   Why so many?
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: Papaw on July 22, 2013, 08:07:54 AM
Likely because they were used so much in upholstery for for one thing, and other crafts also.
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: mvwcnews on July 22, 2013, 10:43:23 PM
Maybe I'm really missing something fundamental here, but it seems to me that there are more hog ring pliers than there ever were hogs.  They seem to be everywhere.   Why so many?
Once upon a time, every farmstead had hogs; hogs will root & so every farmstead had hog ring pliers -- if you mislaid your first - third pairs they were cheap enough. 
When I was a kid going to farm sales with dad there'd be multiple hog ring pliers in the "hay rack lots"   on every sale.   Dad had lots of different styles of hog ring pliers -- there is still a shelf full of different brands of hog rings because the auctioneer didn't think they'd bring anything when dad sold his tool collection.   There may be a shoe box worth of hog ring pliers laying around yet as well -- all rusted solid and only good for scrap metal.
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: oldtools on July 23, 2013, 05:55:08 PM
Maybe I'm really missing something fundamental here, but it seems to me that there are more hog ring pliers than there ever were hogs.  They seem to be everywhere.   Why so many?
Once upon a time, every farmstead had hogs; hogs will root & so every farmstead had hog ring pliers -- if you mislaid your first - third pairs they were cheap enough. 
When I was a kid going to farm sales with dad there'd be multiple hog ring pliers in the "hay rack lots"   on every sale.   Dad had lots of different styles of hog ring pliers -- there is still a shelf full of different brands of hog rings because the auctioneer didn't think they'd bring anything when dad sold his tool collection.   There may be a shoe box worth of hog ring pliers laying around yet as well -- all rusted solid and only good for scrap metal.

I used them for upholstery work, & clip wire cages together. but how do they use them on Hogs? "Hogs will root"?
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: mvwcnews on July 23, 2013, 11:38:35 PM
Maybe I'm really missing something fundamental here, but it seems to me that there are more hog ring pliers than there ever were hogs.  They seem to be everywhere.   Why so many?
Once upon a time, every farmstead had hogs; hogs will root & so every farmstead had hog ring pliers -- if you mislaid your first - third pairs they were cheap enough. 
When I was a kid going to farm sales with dad there'd be multiple hog ring pliers in the "hay rack lots"   on every sale.   Dad had lots of different styles of hog ring pliers -- there is still a shelf full of different brands of hog rings because the auctioneer didn't think they'd bring anything when dad sold his tool collection.   There may be a shoe box worth of hog ring pliers laying around yet as well -- all rusted solid and only good for scrap metal.

I used them for upholstery work, & clip wire cages together. but how do they use them on Hogs? "Hogs will root"?

"Root hog, or die."    Hogs use their snouts to "root" i.e. dig in the ground to look for food, turn up cool soil to lay on, etc.   When you have hogs penned up, they will dig impressive hog wallows, dig themselves through or under fences, etc.  The hog rings were installed in that combination of gristle & sensitive tissue that comprises a hog's snout to make rooting uncomfortable and hence discourage rooting.
 
Patent no 47,329 ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=47329&id=50033 ) shows a hog's snout with one such wire in place .  Patent no. 116,440  ( http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=116440&id=32374&set=29 ) shows a different style & location for placing the ring. Patent no. 154,046  (http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=154046&id=42296&set=46 ) shows yet another notion.
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: oldtools on July 24, 2013, 02:17:00 AM
Ouch!!!
Title: Re: Hog Ring Pliers
Post by: Helleri on July 26, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Those are also an indispensable tool for working with cyclone fencing.