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Title: Brace Bit adjustables...age and value??
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on January 10, 2013, 01:48:24 PM
Part of last weekend's purchase and don't really have a use for the brace bits, but wondered it they did have some value.  They for the most part are in excellent condition.  I'll prolly keep the Millers Falls chest drill as it's from the Miller Falls address and not the Greenfield. 

Top to bottom and left to right

No name hand drill
Do It Yourself wood gouge??
Lyon and Francis wood tool
No name pin drill
Millers Falls chest drill with bubble level attached,no model number
broken mini- folding wood rule

Adjustable Brace Bits(L-R)
Riverside Tool Co.
Irwin #2
Irwin #22Irwin xxxx-dial
 no name  #13??
Clark  "Expansive"
OC Jennings "Steers"?   1922
Worth
Enderes "Special"  1913

Thanks in advance gentlemen

DM&FS
Title: Re: Brace Bit adjustables...age and value??
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on January 10, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
Closeups of the adjustables.  Can't believe how clean these boys are....and the Enderes still has its old raggedly pouch...

DM&FS

Title: Re: Brace Bit adjustables...age and value??
Post by: rusty on January 10, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
>the Enderes still has its old raggedly pouch...

Because it was an expensive high quality tool, and someone wanted it to stay that way :)

http://www.enderes.com/history.htm
Title: Re: Brace Bit adjustables...age and value??
Post by: oldtools on January 11, 2013, 04:39:03 AM
Very nice set of tools!!!
Title: Re: Brace Bit adjustables...age and value??
Post by: scottg on January 11, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
The mortice gauge is very cool. Its probably your oldest tool. Probably the most valuable too.
 The pindrill is very unusual. Not much value but then I don't collect tools by value anyway. I just like cool.
 I have no clue about the homemade gouge tool. I doubt it was made for woodworking, maybe gardening?

 Expansion bits were all the rage for a while. They were expensive and people bought them like crazy.
You will always need them around because they will drill a bigger hole than you have a standard auger for. Plus, the day will come you need a weird sized hole and you can adjust for any size.
   Last, when you have extras you can grind the large cutters into a profile and make toy car wheels or rosettes. Manufactured bits that cut these profiles sell for a --lot-- of money. 60 or 80 dollars apiece. You have what you need to make one for free here.
 If you look in the first picture near the bottom, these are rosettes I made with an old expansion bit.

  They need to be very sharp to work well. You will mostly be drilling shallow holes as they don't feed the chips in a deep hole.
 Make no mistake, if you let out a big cutter and go to boring a 3" hole, it takes tremendous torque to cut even when razor sharp. So you need a brace with a wide throw. Your standard 8" swing brace will not do! Look for a 14", this is about the biggest common size.
   
 Expansion bits have little to no value on the collector market. Only mechanics who have a use for them will buy them. Collectors who only own tools, but do no work with them, wouldn't touch expansion bits with a 10 foot pole.
  yours Scott