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What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: phillie on June 27, 2011, 10:36:23 PM

Title: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: phillie on June 27, 2011, 10:36:23 PM

Hello,

Found this in a tool box and could not find information on it through normal channels. The pliers? measure 9" long and the 3 step adjustable jaws open to 4 1/4". It seems like it would be used for gripping different size round objects. It is marked BOKER USA. Thanks for the help.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: keykeeper on June 27, 2011, 10:45:35 PM

Oil filter wrench?

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Hm Wrench on June 27, 2011, 11:00:28 PM

Some boker history, and my guess is Vacuum Grip Pliers .   I also have a pair of Boker  battery  pliers

http://www.boker.de/us/index.php?c=2003



(http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m341/kirkebay/trade%20tools/bokerpliers.jpg)

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: lzenglish on June 28, 2011, 12:06:06 AM

Phillie: They look like Cannon Plug Pliers, usually found with rubber/plastic Jaw protectors on them. As I remember, Cannon is a brand name much like Crescent, and Phillips, and they are screw in captive electrical connectors, used in Military applications.

Wayne

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Neals on June 28, 2011, 12:16:32 AM

I don't have the info in front of me but if I remember right Boker was a German family of tool makers. One brother moved to the USA and manufactured there. There was also a Boker who was a tool distributer not a manufacturer. Some of the markings were Henry Boker, H. Boker and Boker

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: lzenglish on June 28, 2011, 12:20:13 AM

Quote from: Neals on June 28, 2011, 12:16:32 AM

I don't have the info in front of me but if I remember right Boker was a German family of tool makers. One brother moved to the USA and manufactured there. There was also a Boker who was a tool distributer not a manufacturer. Some of the markings were Henry Boker, H. Boker and Boker

Also a well known maker of quality knives Neals, of which I own several.

Wayne

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Bus on June 28, 2011, 02:09:44 AM

If your pliers should of had plastic jaw inserts the design patent (of June 19, 1956) for this type of pliers is here:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=PxdyAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

At the bottom of the page there is this note: "References cited in the file of this patent. Plomb Tool Co. Catalog 4820, 1948, page 36, items 236 and 240."

If anybody has access to this catalog it might have the answer as to what purpose these pliers were mad for.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/message-board/jaw-insert-pliers-patent.jpg)

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Branson on June 28, 2011, 06:24:04 AM

Quote from: phillie on June 27, 2011, 10:36:23 PM

Found this in a tool box and could not find information on it through normal channels. The pliers? measure 9" long and the 3 step adjustable jaws open to 4 1/4". It seems like it would be used for gripping different size round objects. It is marked BOKER USA. Thanks for the help.

There was a thread on this tool on the old list, but I still had questions about this style of plier.  I bought two pairs of these about 15 years ago, sold one, kept one.  The one I kept was made by Utica, and it's the handiest tool for unscrewing difficult lids I've ever found -- especially those dratted safety lids!
Neither had ever  been fitted with plastic inserts.

Boker has been around for a long time, like the article pointed out.  The first Boker tool I bought was a Lancaster pattern hacksaw, which I used at Sutter's Fort.   It looks like the attached photo.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: lbgradwell on June 28, 2011, 07:33:34 AM

Quote from: Bus on June 28, 2011, 02:09:44 AM

If your pliers should of had plastic jaw inserts the design patent (of June 19, 1956)...

If anybody has access to this catalog it might have the answer as to what purpose these pliers were mad for.

Non-marring pliers for brass/chrome plumbing fittings, probably...:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32197&cat=1,43456,43400 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32197&cat=1,43456,43400)

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: sumner52000 on June 28, 2011, 08:09:16 AM

I saw a pair at the flea market and the old guy told me it was a fuse puller.  That didn't make sense to me being metal.  I just sold my pair a couple weeks ago for $1.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: phillie on June 28, 2011, 01:31:11 PM

Thanks for all the info!!!

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: scottg on June 28, 2011, 03:31:57 PM

The Boker name goes back to at least the 1600's in tool/cutlery making.

 So, you can be pissed at them for WW11 (and probably should), WW1, the hundred years war, and the fact that they aren't USA made,
     And still have a couple three hundred years of clear toolmaking to admire.

Boker is one of those firms that survive.
   yours Scott 

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Bus on April 06, 2015, 06:45:50 AM

I came across these today. They were on my Phtobucket Message Board Page so I must of posted them here before the crash.

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/message-board/Utica-Catalog-661-electrical-pliers-1.jpg~original)

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/buswrench/message-board/Utica-Catalog-661-electrical-pliers.jpg~original)

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: wvtools on April 06, 2015, 06:56:18 AM

I have a 1966 Boker catalog.  It reads "A-N Electrical Connector Nut Pliers, USAF DWG. No. 4904591, Adjustable to properly grip Electrical Connector Nuts, sizes 16 to 32.  Forged of special analysis alloy steel."

They came with and without the nylon inserts like the Utica ones.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: bonneyman on April 06, 2015, 04:39:39 PM

Cannon plug pliers. Some had hard rubber inserts, some didn't.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: HeelSpur on April 06, 2015, 05:07:19 PM

Quote from: bonneyman on April 06, 2015, 04:39:39 PM

Cannon plug pliers. Some had hard rubber inserts, some didn't.

That's what I was told that mine were (Cannon plug pliers).

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Billman49 on April 09, 2015, 07:47:49 AM

I bought some similar in France a few years ago - they were in the plumbers section of the tool shop, used for tightening and loosening the screw connections on sink and basin traps...

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: bonneyman on April 09, 2015, 10:07:18 AM

BOKER made a good tool. I think I have a pair of wire cutters by them?

I've got a pair of non-insert Utica's around here somewhere, and a cheapie aluminum handled inserted jobbie, too. Never know when you're gonna need a Cannon plug plier. Although I've been know to grab round tools with the inserted one so as not to mar the chrome.
I know - using a screwdriver as a jumper for your car starter!

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: lptools on April 10, 2015, 10:34:37 AM

I did a little digging, and these were used on electrical, professional audio, video, & stage lighting equipment , with pin type connectors. The inventor of the pin type connector was James Cannon, so the connectors were referred to as Cannon Plugs. Here is a link to the Wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: john k on April 10, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

I read canon plug and immediately thought of removing the detonator from the end of an artillery piece, must get more sleep.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Charles Garrett on April 10, 2015, 09:54:01 PM

They were designed to be used with Breeze aircraft electrical plugs during WW2 and beyond.  Cannon also.  Indian Motocycle co found they were ideal for  use on the Chhief Valve covers also.

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: blackoak on April 10, 2015, 09:56:54 PM

Here's an older thread on pliers a lot like the Bokers, but Utica brand.
http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=11063.0

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: Chillylulu on April 11, 2015, 06:17:22 AM

Quote from: blackoak on April 10, 2015, 09:56:54 PM

Here's an older thread on pliers a lot like the Bokers, but Utica brand.
http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=11063.0

That thread just looks old for its age. This thread is almost 3 yrs older. Sometimes I feel just like that, too.

Expect some Dr. one day to say "Well Mr. Chilly, your problem is that your biological age is older than your chronological age." And that would just about explain it all.

Chilly

Title: Re: What is it? BOKER tool
Post by: blackoak on April 11, 2015, 03:50:26 PM

I'm bad about not looking at the date of a post.