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Blacksmith and Metal Working Forum => Blacksmith and Metalworking Forum => Topic started by: dimwittedmoose51 on October 21, 2012, 04:00:19 AM

Title: Blacksmith-Made Hay Fork???
Post by: dimwittedmoose51 on October 21, 2012, 04:00:19 AM
The differences in the tines and the work around the top bridge make me think this was hand made.  Any opinions out there?    an no, I don't have the handle.

TIA

DM&FS
Title: Re: Blacksmith-Made Hay Fork???
Post by: OilyRascal on October 21, 2012, 04:04:40 AM
I have the same question for myself re: one I found in the barn.  Looks very similar to me.

(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_201319_.jpg)
Title: Re: Blacksmith-Made Hay Fork???
Post by: rusty on October 21, 2012, 09:10:20 AM

Likely. But, you may be asking the wrong question.

"Blacksmith made" , doesn't necessarily imply 'Made by an individual one time"

'Mass production' in the last century was often a factory building full of people making things individually by hand......

So, it may be both mass produced, and blacksmith made and hand forge welded.....

It could also have been repaired....
Title: Re: Blacksmith-Made Hay Fork???
Post by: Dakota Woodworker on October 21, 2012, 12:44:26 PM
Not a big deal but these are actually manure forks, hay forks have 2,3, or four tines.  I don't know about the production method for this fork, can't help you there.
Title: Re: Blacksmith-Made Hay Fork???
Post by: keykeeper on October 21, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
I say mass-produced, through a series of open die forging. One operation to make the initial "blank" (which would encompass the tang and bridge along with necessary metal for the tines), next would form it into an elongated form, then next would split out each tine, and last would form the final profile, bend of tines, point of tines, etc. Could be one man, using several stations so as not to lose heat, or more than one man with any combination of steps thereof.

Just my .02, take it for what it's worth. I'm not an expert. But I have dabbled in blacksmithing as a hobby for several years now.

Just thinking through the steps for a blacksmith to make such a tool, I don't think it would be worth his while to undertake such a job, between the forging of the initial blank, splitting of the blank, drawing out of that many tines, and the finish work to achieve that level of symmetry. The cost for the tool would be rather hefty back in the day, I would think.

A smaller 3 or 4 tine fork would probably be more common to find handmade, but still wouldn't have that level of finish work and/or symmetry.