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Woodworking Forum => Woodworking Forum => Topic started by: rusty on June 19, 2011, 04:35:41 PM
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Any guesses on this mark?
I can not make out enough letters to guess the name,
? ? ? ? ? Brothers
Cast Steel
Yeah, it has seen better days...
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Moulson Bros Cast Steel
Nice old maker.
yours Scott
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Aha!
That helped , thank you :)
Now that I know who made it, I see the missing handle is a loss : (
It is supposed to have a nice pretty turned handle, oh well
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yup Moulson Bros..... Good Stuff!
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Now that I know who made it, I see the missing handle is a loss : (
It is supposed to have a nice pretty turned handle, oh well
And?? They -all- have nice handles.
You just have to decide what your favorite pattern is.
Personally, I can't decide, never could...... heeheheheehehe
(http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/chizhandle1.jpg)
(http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/chizhandle2.jpg)
(http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/chizracks.jpg)
yours Scott
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I like those! Nice group!
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i have a moulson bro,s chisel on ebay at the moment along with some others..if you want to see the handle its the last one in the pic,, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140564276460&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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i have a moulson bro,s chisel on ebay at the moment along with some others..if you want to see the handle its the last one in the pic,, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140564276460&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
That looks right to me. Just a working handle, a style, I notice, that is shared by others in this lot.
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> Just a working handle
Naw, this is a working handle, plastic and metal, plain, functional, rugged, and not an ounce of grace and beauty.
I love my Marples, they work fine for what I use them for, but they just don't have that nice warm 'use me' look..
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>Naw, this is a working handle, plastic and metal, plain, functional, rugged, and not an ounce of grace and beauty.
That's that newfangle stuff. Hard for a carpenter to make... For paring chisels with tangs, I like a nice, simple,
octagon handle. The first one I made from a section of the broken handle from my grandfather's old hoe. Nice
piece of ash. It's served me well for about 35 years on a no name cast steel 3/4 inch chisel. It does say "use
me" and I probably use it more than any other. Made some others out of dogwood, but don't like them quite
as much.
>I love my Marples, they work fine for what I use them for, but they just don't have that nice warm 'use me' look..
Good tools, Marples, though I tend towards D.R. Barton and W Butcher myself, in chisels.
Your Marples chisel reminds me ... About 25 years ago, I was in the scene shop for the San Francisco Opera.
One fellow had an open tool chest, filled with wood working tools -- a lot of them vintage. I had to look. The
crusty old fart came over and closed the lid. But we got to talking, and he took me for a tour of the chest. The
tool chest and much of its contents had come down in his family (along with the 275# Peter Wright anvil in the
shop). Along with his grandfather's wood handled Marples was a set of the blue handled Marples like yours.
It was a testament to quality and craftsmanship.
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> Just a working handle
Naw, this is a working handle, plastic and metal, plain, functional, rugged, and not an ounce of grace and beauty.
I love my Marples, they work fine for what I use them for, but they just don't have that nice warm 'use me' look..
I dunno. Being a lifelong handle junkie, the only thing that handle has going against it, is ugly.
Washed out blue and gray, are they kidding?
But otherwise, look at the lines? The proportion?
If you carved the very same handle, beautiful oval, complete with fineline checkering in the panels, in ebony?
You'd be on the cover of Fine Woodworking!
Well ok, FW sells power tools for a living mostly, but a handle like what I described should be on the cover!! Here is a similar in brilliant yellow. Its married to the cheapest crappiest chisel blade, but I love this handle!
(http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/plastic2.jpg)
I really like rectangular octagons too. I picked this up off the floor on its way into the woodstove one day. I roughed it out and it was totally usable at that point, in 20 minutes flat. So fast and easy.
Of course I had to go and refine it... took a little longer heehehehe
(http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/hometools/18th.jpg)
Here is the whole story.
http://wkfinetools.com/contrib/pScott/art/oldHandles/oldHandles2.asp (http://wkfinetools.com/contrib/pScott/art/oldHandles/oldHandles2.asp)
yours Scott
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Now stop!
You are making this very hard.
I am trying to avoid starting yet another project. But you keep showing me all these pictures of pretty handles, and making me think I really should make the chisel a handle.
And then to make it worse, you keep taking away my perfectly good excuses.
"I have no suitable wood to make a handle"
Then I discover you can make a handle from the end of a broomstick
"I don't have any sacrificial broomsticks"
Sadly, I have a box of broken hickory handled hammers..
"I don 't own a spokeshave"
Then I discover an old file will work just fine
"Even if I made a new handle, I don't know how to attach it"
OK,fine, after reading several artickes ok wkfinetools, I realize a complete moron can attach a handle to a tanged chisel
Help me out here, I need more excuses to continue procrastinating...
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How about
"It is too much fun with a feeling of accomplishment to make something, and I have enough of that already!"
You should believe that the little project I did with that mill knife was really simple and easy, but it was perfect therapy for a week that was sorta tough at work.
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I use to get my stress release and therapy from racing vintage dirt track back in the day, now I get it though forging...
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Help me out here, I need more excuses to continue procrastinating...
How about, "I don't have the proper vise to hold it while I work on it." At least that's an excuse
to get another tool...
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"I have no suitable wood to make a handle"
Then I discover you can make a handle from the end of a broomstick
"I don't have any sacrificial broomsticks"
Sadly, I have a box of broken hickory handled hammers..
"I don 't own a spokeshave"
Then I discover an old file will work just fine
"Even if I made a new handle, I don't know how to attach it"
OK,fine, after reading several artickes ok wkfinetools, I realize a complete moron can attach a handle to a tanged chisel
Help me out here, I need more excuses to continue procrastinating...
Well Rusty I can help you a little.
Lets see, a broomstick is often birch so while it'll make a decent file handle I wouldn't want to hit it much. Broken rake handle or baseball bat? Now there is a string of fine chisel handles waiting to be born.
And you can definitely use just a file, but a spokeshave is so much more fun!! This gives you the excuse of heading to the swap and and get yourself a selection. Get some iron and get some wooden ones too. Both are totally great. You get to learn to restore and sharpen!! Pick up a small drawknife while you are there. Can't decide between sizes? Get several!! :)
Its just a temporary stay of execution though......... hehehehe
yours Scott
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Lets see, a broomstick is often birch so while it'll make a decent file handle I wouldn't want to hit it much. Broken rake handle or baseball bat? Now there is a string of fine chisel handles waiting to be born.
And you can definitely use just a file, but a spokeshave is so much more fun!! This gives you the excuse of heading to the swap and and get yourself a selection. Get some iron and get some wooden ones too. Both are totally great. You get to learn to restore and sharpen!! Pick up a small drawknife while you are there. Can't decide between sizes? Get several!! :)
yours Scott
Yeah! What Scott says! The metal ones are easiest to get acquainted with. My favorite, and the one I would start with is a Stanley 53 or 54 with the adjustable mouth. The wooden handled shaves are fussier, but there are some with screw adjustable blades that make things simple. Love small drawknives (and big ones too!). My favorite is a 6" carriage maker's, but I have a 4" Buck Brothers that runs a very close second.
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I always hear that about wooden shaves being fussy. But I have never found it so.
Only takes a few minutes to set an old one up all the way up from scratch.
After that, a minute to sharpen and set the blade, whazammo!! Easiest cutting tool I own!
My grand daughter could handle one fine when she was 4, maybe even three!!
I love how easy they cut. Effortless!!
Sometimes I will take a few shavings off from behind my back, like Jimi Hendrix, just for show!
A wooden shave is always the very first tool I hand any total newbie I get in my shop. First one.
In a few seconds they are peeling off curls to beat the band, and loving it.
I don't have any trouble with the normal Stanley #51 either. I guess it was because it was the first kind of shave I ever owned? So I just got used to tapping the top of the blade with a small hammer to set it.
Shaves don't usually move the blade until its time to take it out and sharpen it again. Not like a plane where you need to move it sometimes. Shaves are more set it and go, type tools.
I never found a Stanley 55 or deep concave shave, and I'm always looking. I've had a couple of chances but didn't get them
for one reason or another.
yours Scott