Tool Talk
Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Classic Auto and Motorcycle Tools => Topic started by: strik9 on July 22, 2012, 09:25:14 PM
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I am planning on recreating a Ford model T basic tool kit as best possible over the coming months. Probably an early 20's version if possible. I have decided to start with the pouch and need the dimentions.
If anyone has an original and could take a few measurements for me I would be most appreciative!
I have pictures ripped from google searches for appearances but sadly was unable to find the size.
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I don't have the size or a pic but, try the forum, The Ford Barn, there is a section for T's, give you all the info you can imagine. luck.
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Thank you Sir, I will give them a try.
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That would be a great question for the technical editor at The Vintage Ford. I'll be surprised if an article about it has not been published in the past.
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The Ford Barn has a slew of car info but so far I am unable to find tool kit info. Clearly more digging about will be needed. Which will be my pleasure.
I will try The Vintage Ford site tonight.
Thank you all for these clues, I never knew these sites existed.
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http://mafca.com/tqa_tools.html
I know its A, cant remember where the T was, the pouches are already being re-produced cheap I believe thru Snyders..........http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com ............If thats not correct I can come up with the right info
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1930 is correct. For $7.95 it is hardly worth making it unless you have more tools than the basic load.
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/4362
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http://www.model-t-restore.com/tools.htm
This should answer your questions about the tools included.
Photo attached credit goes to the above website.
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I was unable to get dimentions but there were enough good pictures there to get the look right , thanks guys. I can work with that info now.
Now its time to laugh at me.
I have been blindly buying any and all old DOE wrenches I can find. As well as receiving a few from a friend in the SoCal area.
I found a bunch of No. 27 of different brands and never more of them to make sets. Two are marked in Ford script logos and they were the choice finds.
Of these the brands are:
Armstrong Chicago, marked in USS and the 27
Enderes, marked in SAE and 27C
M circle, USS and 27, drop forged on the opposite
Q or 0 6765D.B.27, no size markings
Fairmount cleve. , no size markings
Ford U.S.A., M on the opposite, no size markings
Ford (older script) , opposite has F, M circled and 4
All are oddballs to make sets and all are equal to No.27 wrenches that were in the car tool kits.
I couldn't see the forest for all the trees until tonight. I have a decent selection already it seems.
I also have a No. 23 with the Q number of that same style, but no mention in the T car kit of a 23 wrench.
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The 'Q' wrench is a dodge wrench (thus 'DB')
Quite an assortment :)
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Cool beans! I'm accidentally more advanced in the future Dodge kit than the Ford I had planned.
And another quest is born!
Any idea of the time frames of the possible wrenches and the real Ford scripts?
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The Ford USA wrench you have was used from 1931 to about 1941 (at that time the wrench was made thinner).
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Thank you BR. That would put it in A to pre-war era and not T territory.
Digging a bit more revealed two Barcalo-Buffalo 27 equivilents marked in SAE. Possible car kit but later than '29 for sure.
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Thank you BR. That would put it in A to pre-war era and not T territory.
Actually it would be prior to 1928
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Both the Ford scripts or just the USA marked one? I really prefer the plainer one with the Ford to be the older but I would like to get this as correct as possible.
Speed and deadlines really don't matter on this as much as getting the right aged tools.
I will probably have a local make the pouch for me out of naugahide with a kevlar liner. My Ebuying powers are very limited so local is the preferred route to aquire things.
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Both the Ford scripts or just the USA marked one? I really prefer the plainer one with the Ford to be the older but I would like to get this as correct as possible.
Speed and deadlines really don't matter on this as much as getting the right aged tools.
I will probably have a local make the pouch for me out of naugahide with a kevlar liner. My Ebuying powers are very limited so local is the preferred route to aquire things.
Maybe I am un-clear but just to clarify I was referring to the Dodge wrench
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If you want your Model T set to be correct, then go with the info on the website I posted. I highly doubt they would post anything without research into it.
There really weren't that many wrenches that went into that toolkit, anyway. Should be easy to find.
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Keykeeper, now that the weekend is here I have a chance. Weekday life gets in the way of internet surfing a bit.
1930, thanks for the info. The other Q wrench is SAE marked with no D.B. in the number so it is clearly later. Although it is of the same design and form.