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Title: whatsit?
Post by: fflintstone on July 20, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
Right now the pivoting jaw only opens maybe 10 degrees. The spring loaded loop in the rear only travels an 1/8” or so. I assume they both should move more.

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4205/whatsit1.jpg)
By fflintstone (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fflintstone) at 2012-07-20

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3965/whatsit2.jpg)
By fflintstone (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fflintstone) at 2012-07-20

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1237/whatsit21.jpg)
By fflintstone (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/fflintstone) at 2012-07-20
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Neals on July 20, 2012, 11:48:31 PM
Saw one of those once and was told it was for leading bulls around by the nose. Not sure I believe that one.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Papaw on July 21, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
Would need to open a bunch wider. but that's possible.
Most are simpler, like this-
(http://www.antiquefarmtools.info/USERIMAGES/473A.jpg)
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: thiggy on July 21, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Don't know what it is called, but that is what it is for.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Lewill2 on July 22, 2012, 03:01:35 PM
It doesn't have to open very far if it is clamping the nose ring.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: BruceS on July 22, 2012, 03:22:46 PM
Would need to open a bunch wider. but that's possible.
Most are simpler, like this-
(http://www.antiquefarmtools.info/USERIMAGES/473A.jpg)

I'm just waiting to see some Pink haired Goths and spike haired heavy metal's   wearing them.
Hang on to them !   The value will sky-rocket if it becomes a new fad.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Papaw on July 22, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
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It doesn't have to open very far if it is clamping the nose ring.

My understanding was that they were used on a bull without a nose ring. The pinch of the jaws made the bull follow the lead to avoid the pain.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: rudeawakening55 on July 22, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
  I believe it's a (hay sling trip) ropes go in eyelets
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Billman49 on July 23, 2012, 12:49:12 PM
Looks like some sort of self releasing hook - stays closed when the tension is on it (when lifting) but opens when the load is off,,,

see:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/1477836.pdf
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6654990.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4537434.html
http://www.sydneytools.com.au/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1599&cat=Beaver+Eye+Self-Locking+and+Automatic+Release+Hook+-+BSR

Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: wrenchcollector on July 25, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
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It doesn't have to open very far if it is clamping the nose ring.

My understanding was that they were used on a bull without a nose ring. The pinch of the jaws made the bull follow the lead to avoid the pain.

Yes, the one you posted is for non-nose ring bulls/or even cows w/out nose rings.  Have/ will use these.  Original posted pic, nota clue.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Mel Larsen on August 01, 2012, 09:39:44 PM
I'm thinking it some sort of release hook.   With something in the Jaws and pulled from either or  both of the side loops, then when a rope or what ever pulls the back loop, it releases the Jaws.  Why?? the only thing I can think of it a Guilder,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no, well maybe some farm operation like stacking hay, or Damn don't it make you mad when you can't remember what you want to say :o) 
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: fflintstone on August 29, 2012, 08:12:51 AM
My BFF finally got a look at this.  He is not well versed on farm tools or any really old tools unless they are machinist tools. However after grabbing it and holding for just a few seconds said that it is for grabbing the raw edge or edges of sheet metal. Given that it is way too heavy to stick in a bull’s nose this is by far the most plausible explanation so far.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: scottg on August 29, 2012, 01:35:58 PM
Its a drum lifter. Or any heavy piece of steel that fits in the jaws.
  I used to lift new barrels of oil or solvent etc (3-500 pounds??) up and over a low wall into the generator/flamables storage area we kept them in, with something very similar to this.
  And then lift back out when necessary or empty.
   Used with a forklift, the lifter was attached to the end of a fork. 
 
 You slip it on the lip of a steel drum and lift. When you set it down, it lets go.
 Steel plate up to its capacity can be lifted too.
  Its kind of cool to see this big heavy object dangling from a lip.

 At least this is what we did with one.

 I don't understand the big loop ears on this though, and I'm sure it has another use as well.
  yours Scott 
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Papaw on August 29, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
Now that Scott told us, I remember a similar clamp used to lift large plates of steel onto my truck when I was a driver.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Lewill2 on August 29, 2012, 06:27:07 PM
Steel plate lifter that I have is quite a bit different from this. My plate lifter has a set of serrated jaws that grab the steel plate.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: fflintstone on August 29, 2012, 11:37:49 PM
well unless someone comes up with some photo evidence I am sticking with sheet metal/thin plate lifter for now.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Lewill2 on September 01, 2012, 01:20:38 PM
Mine needs a good cleaning but this is the steel plate lifter I have.
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: rusty on September 01, 2012, 02:54:19 PM

Because they both use the same general types of dogging mechanisms, plate lifters and cable pullers both tend to look somewhat similar, they are closely related.

I am beginning to suspect the gadget is a barbed wire puller tho, it somewhat resembles another one I saw the other day, and the 2 loop rings might make sense for a way to hook both a tensioner tool and a rope to the same hook.....

Still in the wild guess catagory tho....
Title: Re: whatsit?
Post by: Mel Larsen on September 01, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
I just looked through the posts and I didn't see any mention of the dimensions  of this critter.  Please post a photo with a measure of some sort laying next to it.
Thanks
Mel