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Title: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Windwood on July 12, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
I've been holding on to these for years and I can't even remember where they came from, it's been that long.  Does anyone know what they would be used for?
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Branson on July 12, 2012, 10:22:38 AM
Looks like a leather tool with a bunch of adjustments -- the punch visible in the top picture is distinctively a leather punch.
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Post by: Bus on July 12, 2012, 10:48:43 AM
It's an adjustable button hole cutter for leather. I have never seen one with a punch before.
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Post by: Bill Houghton on July 12, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
Do they say "Osborne" on the handle or around the pivot?  Osborne made/makes a lot of the pro-grade leather tools, and they look kind of Osborney to me.
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: scottg on July 12, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
I think its an adjustable buttonhole cutter for leather.
 The fence is adjusted keep the slits spaced equally in from the edge.
  yours Scott
   
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Post by: OilyRascal on July 12, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
Would this be an application?  I'm told this is my g-gpa's dice cup.

(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_116633_.jpg)
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: lazyassforge on July 12, 2012, 02:55:03 PM
Look here!

http://www.patented-antiques.com/Backpages/T-F-S/Misctools/leather-tools.htm


B Davis
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Post by: Papaw on July 12, 2012, 05:53:26 PM
Looks like it!
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Post by: Billman49 on July 14, 2012, 03:38:50 AM
These appeared on the French, Outils Ancien, site recently. They are button hole pliers, but their use is limited to positions on the edge of an object....
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Billman49 on July 14, 2012, 03:46:08 AM
Modify message isn't working (for me) - the revolving brass anvil allows differenet length slots to be cut with the one blade, the guide sets the position from the edge. The above image is a leather military étui (sheath) for a serpe de genie (sapper's billhook) - dating from the WW1 period. This one is stamped 1918.
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Post by: Aunt Phil on July 15, 2012, 02:19:13 PM
Not sure those pliers are exclusively for leather.  I have a few pair I harvested from the I dragged it home collection of the man who kept machines running for a suit manufacturer.
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Branson on July 16, 2012, 08:59:36 AM
Not sure those pliers are exclusively for leather.  I have a few pair I harvested from the I dragged it home collection of the man who kept machines running for a suit manufacturer.

Were the machines belt driven?  Or had they been belt driven earlier?
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: scottg on July 16, 2012, 02:30:38 PM
Not sure those pliers are exclusively for leather.  I have a few pair I harvested from the I dragged it home collection of the man who kept machines running for a suit manufacturer.

 I am not surprised a bit.
'Ol Ichabod Greenberg, the little master tailor, down on Madison and 5th,  had some tools, now, you best believe.
No messing around. Tools!

  yours Scott
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Aunt Phil on July 17, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
DAMN, those Wiss scissors were Ickys;  I best return em to him cause I damn sure don't want a man with the grip he must have had after me.

Sewing machines in places like Hickey Freeman last for at least the life of 2 sewing machine operators.
Belt driven, not lineshaft belt though.

"Newer" machines had 3Ø varispeed drives. 
I even have a small German enclosed varispeed I harvested from that sale. 
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: rusty on July 17, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
> I best return em to him cause I damn sure don't want a man with the grip he must have had after me.

On the other hand, you don't want him after you *with* those things in his hand....

Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: Aunt Phil on July 17, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
Hell, how fast can Icky move these days?

Them heavy sumbeaches gotta slow him down even more.

On a serious note, the leverage on those scissors SUCKS! 
There are collectors in the rag trades who think highly of them, but I don't.
Title: Re: Crazy pliers. What are they for?
Post by: scottg on July 18, 2012, 10:17:48 AM
As long as you don't try to lift them, and leave them balanced on the tip and little toe piece underneath, scooting across the fairly low table, with your shoulder above, working straight down,
  and they are oh-so sharp??
    They do work -real- well.
  Even in my skinny claw.
 Definitely more a bench shear than a hand shear. They aren't much good waving around in the air.
 
 Heinisch, when you see that giant brass adjustable pivot on a pair of shears, you are looking at Heinisch.

 Technically those were only the middling 14's.
   They did make 16's too, but they are considerable harder to find. heeheheheheh
   yours Scott