Tool Talk

What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: snapmom on July 11, 2012, 06:26:47 PM

Title: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: snapmom on July 11, 2012, 06:26:47 PM

The top tool is a Blue Point (not marked) Woex 70A.  Size 5/32W.  Tool roll model AT-8004. Marked on the reverse head .387
Its the second wrench that I need to ID.  It could be Armstrong or Billings.
Its a AT-8049  3/16w x 1/8w.  marked on the head. 448 and 338
I have never seen this tool roll,  its has been described as about 40 inches long.  If anyone has a pic, please post. Or if anyone has a list of the various tools, that would be nice too.
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo343/snapmom/001-14.jpg)
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo343/snapmom/002-12.jpg)

Title: Re: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: rusty on July 11, 2012, 07:10:39 PM

>Armstrong or Billings

Given only that choice, I would lean toward Armstrong.

 Billings virtually never used raised text on wrenches, except on one carbon steel series in the 20's, and that has thick jaws.

 Armstrong on the other hand often used raised text, and often made wrenches with very deep openings in them, including wrenches made in the 40's....

Having said that tho, I know of no Armstrong wrench that looks quite like that, particularly the style and location of the fractions. I have seen very few examples of Whitworth wrenches from either tho...

The other odd thing is, assuming it is armstrong, the rough finish would indicate it is a vanadium steel series, , the later chrome-vanadium wrenches were smooth between the ends, but the date range transition should be the late 30's....

Title: Re: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: snapmom on July 11, 2012, 07:54:11 PM

The kit was made during WW11 for the aircraft powered by the RR engine, (P51 Mustang, etc) the kit had maybe 18 wrenches from several makers,  I do not know the makers,  but the woex model numbers match up with Blue Point whitworth model numbers.  The finish is the war finish.

Title: Re: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: humber2 on July 12, 2012, 03:40:06 PM

Try this site... http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=319972

I think you'd have to consider the probability of an English die being imported and  used to produce the AT8049.

That text looks to be a different font height.

Title: Re: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: snapmom on July 13, 2012, 05:56:07 AM

Thanks for the info.

Title: Re: Tools from the Packard Rolls Royce Merlin AT-9211 tool roll.
Post by: lbgradwell on July 13, 2012, 01:04:00 PM

Quote from: humber2 on July 12, 2012, 03:40:06 PM

I think you'd have to consider the probability of an English die being imported and  used to produce the AT8049.

I think so too. Or simply importing the wrench...

By the way Mom, in case you hadn't realized, the ".387" and "338" X "448" are simply the AF (inch) equivalents of the respective Whitworth sizes.