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Classic Power Tools => Classic Power Tools => Topic started by: Nolatoolguy on July 11, 2012, 05:47:16 PM

Title: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 11, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
The other day my uncle was cleaning out his basement. He was throwing out some junk. Amongst the junk was this beuty. I also took some tow chains, metal shelving, drill bits, extsion cords, pipe wrenchs an some other stuff he was just gonna throw out.

Talking to my grandma about it today she remembers a saw given to her father(my great grandpa) before he died. My uncle cant remember were it came from. 

Does anyone have any info on this saw.

Also any tips on redoing the top table is well appreaciated. The motor runs but throws the betl. The belt is also pretty chewn up an dry rotted so ime gonna see about getting a new one.

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15476.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15474.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15473.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15471.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15470.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15469.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15478.jpg)

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Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Branson on July 12, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
There's a product called Krud Kutter that comes in a spray bottle that works pretty good -- especially for things too big to soak in vinegar or whatever.  Get  most of the rust off and you can smooth it with a sanding block and some 150 grit sand paper.

What's the date on the crown Craftsman logo?
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: geneg on July 15, 2012, 10:06:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the crown logo started in the early 60's-  have to drag out some Craftsman tool catalogs to see when it ended
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Dakota Woodworker on July 15, 2012, 10:42:16 PM
I found this saw on the Vintage Machinery site here   http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=144  Looks like yours, you should be able to find more info there.  I suspect yours was produced in the 60s some time.  Should be a nice saw, they say it's a 9" saw which is a little unusual any more I would think.
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Branson on July 16, 2012, 09:17:10 AM
I'm pretty sure the crown logo started in the early 60's-  have to drag out some Craftsman tool catalogs to see when it ended

Thanks, geneg, I picked up a tool box with that logo, and I'd kinda like to get a date for it.
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 20, 2012, 03:56:27 PM
Thanks for all the info guys, the restroation is comeing slow(as all my projects) but good. So far the tops sanded down an looking great. Then the side is taken off. It seams as if the extstion was painted black. The front miter gauge plate is off for a cleaning.

Soon the tops gonna come off(shoulda done that first) an the cabinet an stand will be painted black as it originally was. First its all gotta be sanded down thoe.

Now heres were I need some help.


The adjusting dial for the miter on the front is not coming off as it is just on with a allen key. Is there something else holding it on usually or is it just stuck on from old age and I need to pull harder? I didnt wana pull to hard and break it in case theres something else.

Now the main problem I have is ime either really dumb and cant tell how to raise the blade or theres a piece missing that helps raise the blade. I have spent a while trying to figure that out an then my dad cant figure it out an my brother tried but none of us three can figure it out. How do you raise the blade?
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: fliffy42 on July 21, 2012, 09:34:33 AM
Hi Neil... push in on the know and turn and you should be able to raise and lower the blade. It might be pull out but if I remember correctly it is push in. When you get stuck like that , walk away for a bit, come back to it and take a fresh look..... ie... it only had one knob so maybe one knob does everything??? :)
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: johnsironsanctuary on July 21, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
This 1959 cat page is as close as I can come for now. It shows the 'Mono-control' blade adjustment.

(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb373/johnsironsanctuary/SearsSaw1959.jpg)
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Dakota Woodworker on July 21, 2012, 06:02:48 PM
Neal,  I found an owners manual at the vintage machinery site http://www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=622 for a simualar saw and it says to push and turn the control knob on the front of the saw in to raise the blade and to pull the knob out and turn to tilt the blade as fliffy42 said. I'm not quite sure what the problem is that you are having with the miter gauge though.  Are you trying to take it apart for cleaning and painting?
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: rusty on July 21, 2012, 06:30:44 PM
Dakota Woodworker beat me to it ;P

But..this also:
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 21, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
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I'm not quite sure what the problem is that you are having with the miter gauge though.  Are you trying to take it apart for cleaning and painting?

Ime having to problems with the miter gauage. The first problem an big problem is that it wont push in or pull out to raise/lower the blade or that may not even be what it does ime still trying to figure that out. I was gonna take the knob off so I can sand an paint the cabinet part an not have the knob in the way but its not comming off so ime just gonna work around it when I paint. But first I gotta figure out how to raise an lower the blade. I am starting to think the mechinism to raise an lower the blade is just seized up or broken or missing parts. It looks complete to me thoe.
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Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 21, 2012, 11:57:59 PM
http://s822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/?action=view&current=SDC15468.mp4
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on July 29, 2012, 01:23:03 AM
I am planning to tear in to it in the next week or so. Any tips? Ime just gonna take lots of pictures to remember how it went together an hopefuly learn as I go an find the problem. Ime sure ile be back with questions.
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Ietech on July 29, 2012, 11:37:10 PM
First off if you are going to disassemble any old machine especially where rust is present spray with WD-40 or your preference of a similar product -- let it soak overnight then try removing parts. You will be surprised. WD and similer products are not necessarily good long term lubricants but are very good for loosening frozen bolts, shafts, etc etc. they are also very good for cleaning hardened grease or any other petroleum based crud.

Give it a try  -- i know that there are those who have little to no respect for wd 40 but I have never had it fail when loosening frozen metal components.   Just my experience with it tho -- can' hurt to try it --- Good Luck -- Nice saw
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: rusty on July 30, 2012, 09:49:59 PM

Ditto, tho not a fan of Wd as such, definitely juice the heck out of it with something, you are going to make things move that havn't moved in 4 decades ;P
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on August 02, 2012, 09:48:52 PM
I was cleaning up the extension table before it gets painted. I found some numbers on the underside of the extension table.

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15470-1.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15473-1.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15474-1.jpg)


Also are some pictures of the progress.

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15475.jpg)

(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/nolatoolguy/SDC15476-1.jpg)

And I still cant get the knob off the end of the shaft so I put some penatrating oil on it and am gonna see if that works.

Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on August 02, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
And does anyone know a rough date of this saw?
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: geneg on August 06, 2012, 09:09:38 PM
Very late 50's or early 60's judging from the logo.  I think early 50's like it were marked King-Seely under the Craftsman .
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: toolie on September 03, 2012, 08:46:45 AM
cannot help with the saw but for the belt ,Do you have to pull it apart the fit the belt or can you just slip it on ?if not try a link belt or tee lock belt
Title: Re: Craftsman tablesaw
Post by: Nolatoolguy on June 26, 2013, 12:13:17 AM
Hey guys, I just got it out today. Any advice on continuing the restoration, where or where do I start?