Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: schnitz on June 25, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
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I recently acquired a decent amount of pipe threading equipment (dies, threaders, a reamer), and some of the dies are stamped with the NYE name. I like to know a decent background to my tools (helps during re-sales), but I can't seem to find anything out about the company. Except that they were involved in a patent lawsuit in 1923. Beyond that, they just don't seem to exist on record. Got any info you'd like to share? I'd appreciate it!
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I tried looking into the history of this company, but came up with almost nothing. I thought that quite odd given the obvious quality of their tools...
Anyhoo, take a look at: http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=7159.0 (http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=7159.0)
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Dunno, and it's a good question. The very last reference I have for them is 1970.
in 1979 the address of their factory comes up as a Foodmart....
Interesting tidbit tho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Gale_Nye,_Jr.
Harry Nye had a son Harry Jr who had a daughter Judy who married Ted Turner....
Ahh...the convoluted paths of history...
The sailmaking company had the same factory address as the tool co, so perhaps just loss of interest...
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I tried looking into the history of this company, but came up with almost nothing. I thought that quite odd given the obvious quality of their tools...
Anyhoo, take a look at: http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=7159.0 (http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=7159.0)
More info there than I'd found anywhere else, thanks! Of course, now I've got to join another forum.... LOL!!
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Roped in from the wild today; NYE No. 2N pipe cutter 1/8" - 2".
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_96733_.jpg)
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Nice!
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Roped in from the wild today; NYE No. 2N pipe cutter 1/8" - 2".
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_96733_.jpg)
Really nice! Got plans for it?
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Really nice! Got plans for it?
Thanks! It will hang out with the collection of pipe cutting tools I have....although it sticks out like a sore thumb around here. My pipe tools (most coming from my grandfather) have seen their share of working days in crude oil fields - that's being nice about it. It'll be handy to have one I can grab as a worker that hasn't been mangled, thrown in a tar pit, drove over, patch welded, crapped on by a cow, or with the cutter looking more like a Sidewinder brush-hog blade than a cutter wheel.
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Oily, that sure looks too nice to not use, glad you'll use it. My pipe stuff will likely never be used again by me. I've set about cleaning it up and fixing whatever is wrong with it. I'll be on the lookout for a cutter like yours (only with more "character" than yours) to go with the rest of my NYE set. I just wish I could find out more of the history of the company. That's what I got on this forum for!
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Below is an older example of a NYE Chicago #2 sander's type. It is from my grandfather's business. Note the cutting wheel is missing.
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_106375_.jpg)
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Nice Oily, very nice! I take it cutters are hard to find replacements of (as in "Not a snowballs chance in a frozen Satan's Playground").....
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I'm not sure. I have so many things of his that need repaired I've had to prioritize tackling it all. This one is WAY on down the list - but now well cared for nonetheless.
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Not everyone's pipe cutter has a history, but yours does you know.
In 1880 Andrew Saunders patented it, made them for a while, and in 1882 Renewed the patent, and more more. (RE10021)
Then a annoying thing happened, A fellow named Allen started making pipe cutters just like Saunders' pipe cutters.
Saunders promptly sued for patent infringment.
And lost.
Seems the design for the pipe cutter had been published in Knight's American Mechanical Dictionary in 1876.
Oops..
Saunders appealed, pointing out that his pipe cutter had anti friction bearings in the rollers.
The court threw that argument right out the window, pointing out that just adding bearings to something does not constitute inventing it.....
And made a littly tiny bit more patent law in the process...
So now you know the rest of the story -P
Almost.....
Allen worked for Armstrong Manufacturing....
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Neat story! Thanks for sharing.
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Obit. from the Chicago Tribune:
Harry G. Nye, Champion Yachtsman
September 22, 1987|By Kenan Heise.
Harry Gale Nye Jr., 79, one of the nation`s most respected yachtsmen and former owner of Murphy & Nye Sailmakers and Nye Tool Co., twice won the Chicago-to-Mackinac race and was two-time world champion in yachting`s International Star class.
A memorial service for Mr. Nye, a resident of Newport Beach, Calif., and formerly of Evanston, will be held at 11 a.m. next Monday at the Belmont Station of the Chicago Yacht Club in Belmont Harbor. He died Sept. 11 in Newport Beach after a long illness.
Mr. Nye, a Chicago native, was attending Yale in 1932 when his father died. The family tool and die business was suffering during the Depression, and the young man was without work. He loved sailing and began mending sails as a hobby and then as a business. By the outbreak of World War II, when canvas and other sailmaking equipment was no longer available, he had hired 15 workers to cut and sew sails. He sold the company in the late 1950s.
The Nye Tool Co., the tool and die firm founded by his father in 1904, was sold in 1964 to an Indiana company.
His sails had gone around the world, and Mr. Nye used them himself in 1942 to win the International Star world championship. He repeated the feat in 1949 against a field no longer reduced by a world war.
Mr. Nye captured the ``Mac`` in 1950 and 1951. He also won the Detroit-to-Mackinac Race.
In 1965, he was named Chicago-area Yachtsman of the Year.
He won the Olympic trials in 1956, but did not go on to compete because of his health.
Over the years, he owned more than 50 ships, all called ``Gale,`` a family name.
Survivors include his wife, Audrey; four daughters, Judy Hallisy, Sally Parris, Nancy Kriz and Gale; two sons, Harry III and Charles; and a brother, Americus.
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"Bulldog" advertisement
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Another
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strange ads
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Excellent work, Oily!
And I agree; those are the oddest (and therefore very interesting) ads I've ever seen...
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Wayne Pump Company of Fort Wayne, IN was purchased by C.J. Symington in 1949. Wayne Pump became Symington-Wayne in the 1950s with a name change (upon strike and labor issues). It purchased S-K and Lectrolite in 1962.
In 1964 it also purchased NYE Tool and Die. NYE was run under Symington-Wayne ownership as "NYE Tool Company, Division of Symington Wayne Corporation".
My speculation begins here:
It seems the next 5-10 years resulted in controlling interest change of the Symington-Wayne Corp. to Dresser Industries.....and a legal fight ensued, resulting in Dresser being victorious and a forced merger?
What happened with NYE Tool Company, a division of symington wayne at the point of the Dresser takeover is unclear. I can find nothing of the company post Symington Wayne - I suppose it may have died with that takeover. I know of at least one Symington Wayne division (hose reel) was divested.
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Well that sure helps to at least shed some light on how old my NYE stuff is, and it's really interesting to read the old obit and the other stuff about what happened later. Too bad there's not more info available... Thanks for sharing what you guys have found!
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I started looking around the shop (Pile of old rusty stuff) and found a couple Nye tools. Note the the "H" shaped wrench wasn't quite large enough on one end for previous owner, so he took it to the band saw and opened it up a bit...
Jim
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I started looking around the shop (Pile of old rusty stuff) and found a couple Nye tools.
Very interesting, Jim! I've never seen a NYE adjustable before.
It looks like there are tools out there...
Note the the "H" shaped wrench wasn't quite large enough on one end for previous owner, so he took it to the band saw and opened it up a bit...
What a shame...
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The real shame is on me, for not noticing the wrench had been modified before I purchased it!!!
Jim
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A couple of recently acquired adjustable wrench examples:
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_116641_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_116642_.jpg)
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I'll hazard a guess those adjustables were made by my favourite maker - J.P. Danielson...
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I'm now sure they are re-branded J.P. Danielsons.
Oily, what are the codes forged next to the hanging hole on those wrenches? I can't quite make them out...
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I'm now sure they are re-branded J.P. Danielsons.
Oily, what are the codes forged next to the hanging hole on those wrenches? I can't quite make them out...
10" = M.11.5
12" = R.3.5
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Then they were made in 1955 (per AA).
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Was it the 90 (versus 60) degree angle at the fixed jaw joining the base that gave it away as JP Danielson?
They do not have a broached hanging hole so I'd agree post 1948. Also neither of them have a ridge on the non broached hanging hole and AA indicates that change was made in late 50s.............so I would tend to agree with AA interpretation of the date code construct in this case.
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Was it the 90 (versus 60) degree angle at the fixed jaw joining the base that gave it away as JP Danielson?
That was a primary clue (along with the date codes), but my J.P. Danielsons do not have that "Forged Alloy Steel" verbiage on them.
Then this morning I saw an update to my "Let's see your Adjustable Wrenches!" thread over at GG and the poster showed his Proto & Fleet wrenches with the same "Forged Alloy Steel" and 90-degree angles. That removed all doubt!
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=12464.0 (http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=12464.0)
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YES, I also have two Proto adjustables that have the 90, do not have a broached hole, do not have a ridged hanging hole, use the same stamping construct, and that are stamped "Forged Alloy Steel". One of them marked Proto Los Angeles the other simply "Proto". I know I have a Proto AND Plvmb marked adjustable somewhere - just couldn't find it this am to compare.
I suppose you just lured me to GG for viewing pleasure. I can't be missing that stuff.
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I suppose you just lured me to GG for viewing pleasure. I can't be missing that stuff.
You should check out the site; lots of good info there...
(A few "problem posters", but if you stay out of the "Breakroom" you will be OK.)
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The Nye Crescent type looks similar to a P&C I have. Can't find it right now.
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Makes perfect sense; J.P. Danielson would have made all the Pendleton brands after their acquisition...
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A Nye bench and post vice - the SECOND one I've put my eyes on today. This one acquired via purchase, the other FOUND in the Oily Shop. I will post pictures later of the latter.
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_119926_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_119925_.jpg)
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Seems you need a large chunk of wood to go with that -P
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Seems you need a large chunk of wood to go with that -P
AND that little chain binder. NOW I wonder if the chain "shipped" with the vise new.
The "other" vise was mounted to a bench in that building and also lacking the chain binding.
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>AND that little chain binder
It would appear that you were not the only fellow to lose the little thumbscrew, 2 years after that patent, is another patent for the same vise, but with a wedge dog to hold it in place, and surprise, the dog has a ring to keep it with the chain so you don't lose it!
Interestingly, Nye seems to have been very conservative, the same basic vise appears in 1946 with a bench mounting plate (can't lose an entire workbench) and again in 1961 with the classic fold up tripod....
Interesting evoloution of a basic tool..
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>NYE Tool Company, Division of Symington Wayne Corporation
Oddly, searching inventors who assigned things to Nye tool, got me pipe tool patents by the same inventor assigned, oddly, to Lectrolite Corp in 1960, and 1962, and 1964....
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>NYE Tool Company, Division of Symington Wayne Corporation
Oddly, searching inventors who assigned things to Nye tool, got me pipe tool patents by the same inventor assigned, oddly, to Lectrolite Corp in 1960, and 1962, and 1964....
What I have read is that Symington-Wayne purchased S-K and Lectrolite in 1962.
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It would appear that you were not the only fellow to lose the little thumbscrew, 2 years after that patent, is another patent for the same vise.......
With that information - Is it fair to assume the production date for the one I have is either 1924 or 1925? I suppose the "out" to that assumption would be having a patent available for improvements and not have them in production yet, or having both version in production at the same time. I think I just answered my own question :-)
I started looking around the shop (Pile of old rusty stuff) and found a couple Nye tools. Note the the "H" shaped wrench wasn't quite large enough on one end for previous owner, so he took it to the band saw and opened it up a bit...
Jim
Mr. Jim - Have you learned anything as to specifically what the "H" shaped wrench was used for, or with?
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Wow, this information just gets better and better! Thanks a bunch for sharing it!
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Oily,
No idea what the H shaped wrench was for. It is marked P935. Anyone have any ideas what it was for? I have seen other wrenches very similar and assumed they were for a hub of some type, but I am not sure NYE had any specific automotive ties.
Jim
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The H wrench is a basin wrench, it fits those big zinc nuts on the drain pipe under the sink.
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Would that also be called a "Closet Spud Wrench"? It seems the 1950 Nye tool catalog may have one listed.
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Could be, depending on size, (closet aka toilet) fittings had that kind of ring also, usually in the 3"+ size area tho....
Edit: Uninals have smaller drains tho...so maybe
(a 'spud' is just the name of the funny washer-nut)
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Could be, depending on size, (closet aka toilet) fittings had that kind of ring also, usually in the 3"+ size area tho....
Edit: Uninals have smaller drains tho...so maybe
(a 'spud' is just the name of the funny washer-nut)
speaking of toilets
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Ahh...the old days..."I hired a few girls..." hehehe
Very ...uh....slick ad....
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Oily,
No idea what the H shaped wrench was for. It is marked P935. Anyone have any ideas what it was for? I have seen other wrenches very similar and assumed they were for a hub of some type, but I am not sure NYE had any specific automotive ties.
Jim
It's a plumber's spud wrench used for sink strainer nuts, toilet spud nuts, etc. They were produced by several companies in both fixed and adjustable types. Some of them have a hook spanner type wrench on one end.
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I hope that I remembered to wash my hands after handling my toilet spud wrench...
Jim
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I did find a newspaper article dated Oct. 2, 1963 that confirms Nye being sold to Symington Wayne. It also notes Symington Wayne as a Salisbury, Md. company - unlike previous mentions of a Fort Wayne company buying them out. It dates the companies start to 1903.
article text:
NYE Tool Co. Purchased by Eastern Firm
The acquisition of Nye Tool company, 60-year-old manufacturer of pipe tools and pipe threading equipment, was announced yesterday by Symington Wayne corporation, Salisbury, Md. Nye has a 40,000 square foot plant at 4120 Fullerton Ave. It was a cash transaction. W. H. Bateman, Symington Wayne president, said the addition of Nye will round out the company's hand tool division product lines.
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Also of interesting note.
Harry Nye Sr. was arrested by Chicago police January 4th of 1900 for being suspected of operating a counterfeit coin operation. Mrs. Annie Degeare charged him with such to police. He declared she laid a trap for him out of jealousy and revenge. Detectives did discover tools in his former room but he claimed they had been left there by previous tenants of hers. She claimed Nye had rented rooms from her and conducted his counterfeiting work in those rooms; with her having been witness to such operation and attested to his skills. Nye said former roomers had left behind those furnaces, bellows, chisels, and files. No molds were found. His claim was simple - they were lovers, his affection cooled, and she wanted revenge. His claim to involvement with the operation was this simple: "I used those chisels and files that were left behind experimenting on a new safety razor, which I intended to patent".
I have been unable to find record of the outcome of his arrest.
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Hey Bus, Does you P and C look like this?? It sure does look like it came from the same maker as the NYE.
Jim
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No photo Jim!
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oops!
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Yes, unquestionably a J.P. Danielson-produced Pendleton-era P&C.
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Hey Bus, Does you P and C look like this?? It sure does look like it came from the same maker as the NYE.
Jim
That's it.
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I saw a 10" or 12" copy of the P and C adjustable at one of my local antique stores last weekend, but they wanted antique store prices... I really hate when they do that.
Jim
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Harry Gale Nye Jr., 79, one of the nation`s most respected yachtsmen and former owner of Murphy & Nye Sailmakers...
He sold the (sail) company in the late 1950s.
A few ads from the sailing company...
1956:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/MurphyNye1956.jpg)
1957:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/MurphyNye1957.jpg)
1958:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/MurphyNye19582.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/MurphyNye19584.jpg)
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And some more data points for the tools...
The Nye Tool Co., the tool and die firm founded by his father in 1904, was sold in 1964 to an Indiana company.
...Symington-Wayne...purchased S-K and Lectrolite in 1962.
In 1964 it also purchased NYE Tool and Die. NYE was run under Symington-Wayne ownership as "NYE Tool Company, Division of Symington Wayne Corporation".
Here's Oily's pipe cutter:
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_96733_.jpg)
and here are a couple of others. These are all No. 2 cutters. First, what is likely a later but pre-Symington-Wayne NYE tool (note the lack of the cool, stylized "NYE" and the new recessed panel):
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYEPipeCutter.jpg)
and now an example from after the acquisition:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYE-WaynePipeCutter1.jpg)
And here's a shot of some thread chasers post-acquisition where we can see the new logo in the familiar style of the SK-Wayne logo for mechanics tools:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYE-WayneThreadChasers.jpg)
I did find a newspaper article dated Oct. 2, 1963 that confirms Nye being sold to Symington Wayne. It also notes Symington Wayne as a Salisbury, Md. company - unlike previous mentions of a Fort Wayne company buying them out.
The packaging also shows the Symington-Wayne Corp. as being in Fort Wayne - a carry-over from the Wayne Pump Company days.
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But it gets better! This I did not expect...
Harry Gale Nye Jr., 79, one of the nation`s most respected yachtsmen and former owner of Murphy & Nye Sailmakers...
He sold the (sail) company in the late 1950s.
I don't know who Harry, Jr. sold the company to in the late 1950s, but it seems to have done quite well, because the company exists to this day as an Italian-owned entity (controlled by fashion company Sixty SpA) specializing in sailing-wear!
murphynye.com (http://murphynye.com)
Here's Google's awkward translation of the website's History:
Murphy & Nye and sailing: a historical connection, which traces its roots to the beginning of last century, when Jim Murphy and Harry Nye Jr. founded in Chicago - in 1933 - their sail loft specializing in pleasure.
In the '60s Murphy & Nye is one of the most important sail makers in the United States and in 1975 opened a European subsidiary in Italy. This was hugely successful, so much so that in 1980 M & N acquired the brand from Europe, the American parent homes. At the same time, the company decided to improve the know-how that holds in the construction of racing sails to produce garments for crews. This line of highly technical garments are handmade in the same lofts where sails are produced and fully meets the requirements of robustness and functionality required by the crews. The success of these clothes causes the brand to launch a few years later, the line Murphy & Nye Sailwear and historic leader - the cotton pants reps - renamed "Newport", named after the mythical place where it was held for many years the oldest and most prestigious regatta in the world: the America's Cup
The America's Cup becomes a moment of enormous visibility for Murphy & Nye when historical edition of 1992, the M & N Sailwear is chosen as the official supplier of Team Il Moro di Venezia skippered by Paul Cayard. It 's the first time that the boat of a non-Anglophone America's Cup dispute and Murphy & Nye is on board this boat for an unforgettable adventure.
After this resounding success, M & N continues to be the benchmark for the America's Cup sailing teams the most important of the world: Swiss Challenger - in 2000 - at Le Challenger Delphi up to Team New Zealand - in 2002/2003.
Since 2005, besides being Exclusive To replace the Emirates Team New Zealand and United Internet Team Germany, M & N is chosen by the organizers of the America's Cup to design and implement the official collections for men, women and junior with the "32nd America's Cup "- with a three-year exclusive worldwide license. Also in 2005, the brand has signed a co-marketing agreement with Pershing, a Ferretti Group company, for which the collection is made Murphy & Nye Power and alongside Giovanni Soldini in his famous solo firms.
It 'was then the turn of the agreement with Nautor's Swan - prestigious Finnish shipyard that produces the Swan sailing yachts - for which M & N has provided customized apparel to all staff involved in racing, in events and various events.
Today Murphy & Nye is part of the portfolio Sixty SpA and represents a growing international company, with the extreme dynamism that distinguishes a product and result of constant technological research and quality that meets more and more the favor of both teams of professional and amateur sailors and the final consumer.
And, most surprisingly of all, that connection to sailing turned up in 2007 as a nautically-themed partnership between Murphy & Nye and Alfa-Romeo!!!
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/alfa-romeo/2007-alfa-147-murphy-nye-ar37392.html (http://www.topspeed.com/cars/alfa-romeo/2007-alfa-147-murphy-nye-ar37392.html)
Behold the 2007 Alfa 147 Murphy&Nye:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Alfa147MurphyNye0.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Alfa147MurphyNye1.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Alfa147MurphyNye2.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Alfa147MurphyNye3.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/Alfa147MurphyNye4.jpg)
Truly bizarre!
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Holy crap! I just want to know how you guys found all this out. Maybe I need better search methods!
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Thanks for posting the information, lb! Great stuff. I knew the sail company still existed, but had no knowledge of the Alfa 147 Murphy&Nye. I'm enjoying the story unfolding. thanks again!
Holy crap! I just want to know how you guys found all this out. Maybe I need better search methods!
For my part - having access to the Chicago Tribune archives didn't hurt.
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I knew the sail company still existed, but had no knowledge of the Alfa 147 Murphy&Nye. I'm enjoying the story unfolding.
Extraordinary that the name of a Chicago maker of plumbing tools can be extinct in North America, but live on in Europe connected to an iconic Italian car-maker.
What a long, strange trip it's been!
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And some more data points for the tools...
The Nye Tool Co., the tool and die firm founded by his father in 1904, was sold in 1964 to an Indiana company.
...Symington-Wayne...purchased S-K and Lectrolite in 1962.
In 1964 it also purchased NYE Tool and Die. NYE was run under Symington-Wayne ownership as "NYE Tool Company, Division of Symington Wayne Corporation".
Here's Oily's pipe cutter:
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_96733_.jpg)
and here are a couple of others. These are all No. 2 cutters. First, what is likely a later but pre-Symington-Wayne NYE tool (note the lack of the cool, stylized "NYE" and the new recessed panel):
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYEPipeCutter.jpg)
and now an example from after the acquisition:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYE-WaynePipeCutter1.jpg)
And here's a shot of some thread chasers post-acquisition where we can see the new logo in the familiar style of the SK-Wayne logo for mechanics tools:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c180/lbgradwell/NYE-WayneThreadChasers.jpg)
I did find a newspaper article dated Oct. 2, 1963 that confirms Nye being sold to Symington Wayne. It also notes Symington Wayne as a Salisbury, Md. company - unlike previous mentions of a Fort Wayne company buying them out.
The packaging also shows the Symington-Wayne Corp. as being in Fort Wayne - a carry-over from the Wayne Pump Company days.
Any idea where this "Sander's Type" cutter fits in the NYE Tool timeline?
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_106375_.jpg)
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Any idea where this "Sander's Type" cutter fits in the NYE Tool timeline?
I'm afraid not, but I'd have to guess it's earlier...
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A Nye Tool & Machine Works No. 20 Tube Cutter
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_145726_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/846471584_photobucket_145723_.jpg)
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A recent addition - and a worker on several occasions already. NYE #25 1/2" to 2-1/8" pipe cutter, 8" long, 2lbs 4 ounces.
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_167090_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_167091_.jpg)
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Thanks for all the background on Nye tools. My searches are pretty much restricted to wrenches, so all that I have found have been a couple of Nye pipe wrenches. They were beautifully made, and early ones were plated. The 6-inch below was found in Southern Delaware. The older 10-inch retains more than 80% of its original chrome plating. Both wrenches have a small hammer surface on their lower jaws!
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A recently acquired NYE chain wrench - Model NCW 4 - unknown vintage - weight at 1lb 7 ounces - 12" long. It was received in a condition that was less than ideal - plenty of paint to remove. It turned out to have nice jaws and is overall in good condition with some plating scratches.
It will be a worker for me. It is my first reasonably sized chain wrench.
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_173764_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_173768_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_173770_.jpg)
(http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/alphinde/Tools%20Talk/NYE%20Tool%20Collection/846471584_photobucket_173771_.jpg)
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A recently acquired NYE chain wrench - Model NCW 4 - unknown vintage - weight at 1lb 7 ounces - 12" long.
Remarkable; I saw one of these on eBay for the first time this morning!
Nice looking tool!
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Then they were made in 1955 (per AA).
First, what is likely a later but pre-Symington-Wayne NYE tool (note the lack of the cool, stylized "NYE" and the new recessed panel):
It seems your theory of the stylized "NYE" being pre-Wayne, but later in the NYE history, is supported by the markings on the adjustables dated 1955 by date code markings. These two examples would have been 7 years before the sell to Symington-Wayne, and they sport the logo.
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Here is a new one on me. It is not mine, rather one I stumbled across in research; a NYE knockout punch
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recently acquired NYE 8" pipe wrench. It has the stylized "NYE" logo present and is otherwise marked "8" The NYE Tool Co." / "THE NYE TOOL CO. CHICAGO U.S.A."
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For those interested in NYE tools and/or NYE catalog references. You may want to look at GrayBar catalogs in, and around, 1958 for NYE products.
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Bringing this thread back to the top for a minute. I found this pipe cutter at an Estate Sale yesterday and was pointed to this thread. Anyway, here's what I got:
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It has a good layer of grease on it, I just gave it a quick wire brush to expose the writing. I'll clean it up better and take some more pictures, if anyone is interested.
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Hi all
I found is old soil pipe cutter made the by THE NYE TOOL& MACH WORKS>CHICAGO. Trying to find out when it was made'
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Pre 1958 because of the name, probably pre 1920 because it is a saunders type. Nye patented several sliding type cutters after that era.
(But then again, see 1916 patent 1177721 ....)
Still not certain tho, there is a lot of confustion about the saunders type, there were patent lawsuits etc etc...
(At least some of the soil cutters say Pat Pend )
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Reading this thread made me go dig this out of a box in my garage. It's a Nye No. 10 tubing cutter for 3/16" to 3/4" tubing.
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NYE 4" adjustable wrench. It is marked L16. Is this a code as to production date?
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NYE 4" adjustable wrench. It is marked L16. Is this a code as to production date?
Indeed. January 1956, I think...
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Hello, I've recently acquired some tools from someone who passed away. This one seems like it pertains to this thread. I'm interested in selling it but I dont know much about it except its similar to this one I found on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NYE-GEARED-PIPE-THREADER-2-EXTRA-HEAVY-DUTY-P1250-217662-2-1-2-4-DRIVE-SHAFT-/360497909175?pt=BI_Pipe_Threaders_Dies&hash=item53ef598db7
Aside from the value I'd also be interested in any history on it.
It's No. 2 and P.1251
NYE GEARED PIPE THREADER #2 EXTRA HEAVY DUTY
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I have scanned the Oct. 30, 1950 NYE Tool Company Catalog No. 15. It is in a single file PDF form and is 14mb. If there is someone here to host it for all our use please stand up.
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I can & will...
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Courtesy of Oily, the 1950 NYE catalogue can now be downloaded via this link:
www.mediafire.com/?afb8p74u5vq8z4f (http://www.mediafire.com/?afb8p74u5vq8z4f)
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Reading this thread made me go dig this out of a box in my garage. It's a Nye No. 10 tubing cutter for 3/16" to 3/4" tubing.
I have a much larger tubing cutter of the same design (and Amber polymer handle). I'd like to someday find the smaller version you have. Nice tool!
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Courtesy of Oily, the 1950 NYE catalogue can now be downloaded via this link:
www.mediafire.com/?afb8p74u5vq8z4f (http://www.mediafire.com/?afb8p74u5vq8z4f)
LG,
Thanks again for another catalog download.
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Hello, I've recently acquired some tools from someone who passed away. This one seems like it pertains to this thread. I'm interested in selling it but I dont know much about it except its similar to this one I found on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NYE-GEARED-PIPE-THREADER-2-EXTRA-HEAVY-DUTY-P1250-217662-2-1-2-4-DRIVE-SHAFT-/360497909175?pt=BI_Pipe_Threaders_Dies&hash=item53ef598db7
Aside from the value I'd also be interested in any history on it.
It's No. 2 and P.1251
I've used these. More accurately it is a 2-1/2" to 4" threader. We use them now and again in fire protection. Even today almost every job has 1 piece of 4" or at least 2 pieces of 2 -1/2" pipe going out to the FDC (the connection on the building exterior.)
We run them with a Rigid power machine by clamping the pipe in a vise and mounting that threader on the pipe end. The machine is connected to the threader head with a drive shaft with 2 u-joints. (The ebay ad shows a drive shaft.) It can get pretty hairy if the die head isn't on just right. It has tremendous torque, and it flips the pipe stand over and if you don't stop the machine right away it'll flip that too. Probably why the machines all have foot switches now.
I haven't bought or sold one in 12 yrs, but my guess on value to a user is anywhere from $400 to $600. Especially with the hand drive. If I had one to sell I would try to find a fire sprinkler company. But they aren't used much anymore. All pipe bigger than 2" is almost always grooved nowadays
The collector value could be more, I suppose. Aside from tool collectors you could reach out to fire protection collectors. Nice find.
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There is a 1931 catalog ending within the next few hours. I'm out!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-NYE-TOOLS-CATALOG-BOOK-CATALOG-NO-25-WITH-PRICES-/131384560080?ssPageName=ADME:X:ONA:US:5385&autorefresh=true
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There is a 1931 catalog ending within the next few hours.
I wonder why my eBay Saved Search didn't find this.
I've never seen this catalogue before.
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I have a Nye No 2 cutter. Looking for a new cutting wheel. Any suggestions?
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Ebay shows a few- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=+Nye+No+2+cutter&_sacat=0 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=+Nye+No+2+cutter&_sacat=0)