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Title: Gedore??
Post by: crankshaftdan II on December 19, 2011, 01:40:01 PM
Posted this over on GG and got a few comments!  Gedore No 13  # 1961 drop forged  Made in India 1/2x9/16 offset-DBE.  Was this maybe a joint venture from Gedore for a less expensive line like Snappy/Bluepoint etc.??  Most everything that I previously found was Gedore/Germany with a Din #.  Anyone over here have any info or any interest?  Cranky
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: lbgradwell on December 19, 2011, 01:57:03 PM
I'll repeat some info here for the benefit of those who are not members at GG...:

Indian-made Gedores were quite common back in the 1970s; they were sold very cheaply, and, for the most part, you got what you paid for...

Monte at the GJ figured out that the actual Indian producer of those licensed Gedore products was Jhalani Tools (India) Ltd., now part of the Jhalani Forge Group.

www.jtiforge.com (http://www.jtiforge.com)

Gedore stopped producing in India in the early 1980s.
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: lauver on December 19, 2011, 04:13:35 PM
Gang,

For the record, I have a few Gedore/India tools that I have picked up on the cheap.  In using them, I have found them to be decent working wrenches.  I would put them in the same legue as vintage Crafty raised panels, Barcalo Buffalo, Giller, Duro/Indestro, and Thorsen (USA) wrenches.  They are nothing to drool over but they perform well and seem to hold up incredibly well.

That said, I have no interest in collecting them or starting a thread for the brand.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it... (Yeh, I know, I'm going to take a beating for this.)
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: anglesmith on December 19, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
Along with a few Indian and German Gedore I have couple Gedore spanners with SA on them which I take to be South Africa!?
Graeme
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: mrchuck on December 19, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
I also had a few of them, but got rid of them because every time I opened the drawer, the smell of curry would flow out.
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: rusty on December 19, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
>I have couple Gedore spanners with SA on them which I take to be South Africa!?

SA - Sociedad AnĂ³nima , A type of corporation, used in europe, like 'Inc.'
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: lbgradwell on December 19, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
Along with a few Indian and German Gedore I have couple Gedore spanners with SA on them which I take to be South Africa!?

SA - Sociedad AnĂ³nima , A type of corporation, used in europe, like 'Inc.'

No, Graeme is quite right; there has been a Gedore operation in South Africa since the mid-1960s...

http://www.gedore.co.za/pages/33904 (http://www.gedore.co.za/pages/33904)
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: anglesmith on December 19, 2011, 11:12:57 PM
lbgradwell,
 Thank you for that link, very interesting,  But now I'm  left puzzling over the connection between the Dowidat brothers and the Dowidat range of spanners?
Graeme
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: lbgradwell on December 20, 2011, 12:03:57 AM
But now I'm  left puzzling over the connection between the Dowidat brothers and the Dowidat range of spanners?

It's the same family; the same brothers, actually...

Gedore is taken from GEbrueder DOwidat REmscheid. That is the "Dowidat Brothers of Remscheid".

There were three brothers who founded Gedore, but one died fairly early and the other two quarreled with the result that one of the brothers left to form Dowidat in 1949. Eventually, Dowidat merged with another German company named Belzer resulting in Belzer-Dowidat. This company was then acquired by Bahco in 1988 and the last I heard Belzer wrenches were being produced in Argentina.
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: anglesmith on December 20, 2011, 12:27:43 AM
Thank you, not a puzzle any more!  Dowidat tools were made in Australia in the 50-60s? but info is scarce.
Graeme
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: eddie hudson on December 20, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
Monte at the GJ figured out that the actual Indian producer of those licensed Gedore products was Jhalani Tools (India) Ltd., now part of the Jhalani Forge Group.

www.jtiforge.com (http://www.jtiforge.com)

Gedore stopped producing in India in the early 1980s.

The Gedore and Jhalani wrenches I have are almost identical. Not the greatest looking but way better than the chromed Chinese and Taiwnese junk I've run across.
Title: Re: Gedore??
Post by: strik9 on December 20, 2011, 07:22:01 AM
I'll back up Lauver, those are decent working wrenches.  And the fact the are cheap makes them perfect kit for the car and other tools left on site.
  I have used the Jhali and the Gedore brands side by side and other than appearances they do compare favorably with CM raised panels.  Flash and finish will suffer on some.

The 13 series DBE are the best of the bunch.