Tool Talk
Wrench Forum => Wrench Forum => Topic started by: moparthug on April 05, 2024, 08:19:30 PM
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Just picked up this old tool roll full of King Dick wrenches and such. The roll seems to be oiled burlap with a leather strap, due to it's age it's... um, shedding bits of dinosaur every time I unroll it. 2 open end wrenches, 3 nut drivers with T-bar, and a tire iron all marked King Dick. There are a couple empty slots in the tool roll, I'm guessing for an adjustable wrench and a screwdriver?
Does anyone have a set like this, or can point me in the right direction to figure out it's age and what vehicle it may have come with? English tools are a mystery to me, like why after the size it says A/F. As an American I know what AF means, but I doubt that's what the Brits meant. :smiley: My more modern English tools have Whitworth stampings... what does A/F stand for?
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A/F might mean Across the Flats in England too.
Jim C.
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I have a lot of exprience with British motorcycles and yes, A/F means "across the flats" over the pond.
Jim, what is the story behind the tool kit photo you posted? Looks a lot like moparthug's kit.
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Hey Al,
That tool kit is what would have been included from the factory if you had purchased a brand new 1955 MG. The tools are the real deal in terms of originality. Also included but not shown was a jack with a collapsing handle/crank, a small grease gun, a brake line bleeder kit, a tire iron and an engine crank wrench. The burlap tool role is a faithful reproduction of the original. The only tool I’m missing is the middle size tube spanner.
Jim C.
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that's amazing Jim. Would it be possible to list any markings on the tools? I imagine they are not all King Dick brand. Is that a 7" adjustable? I have one, maybe two, marked Made In England.
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Al,
Let me dig them out and I’ll get the list for you. Most of them are King Dick. The tire tools are Dunlop I think. The grease gun is another manufacturer. Like I said, let me get them out and I’ll give you a better answer.
Jim C.
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Al,
Here’s the list. The only tool I’m missing is the 5/16 W x 3/8 W tube spanner. Everything else is factory supplied original and issued with the car. The burlap tool role is a top notch reproduction.
Engine crank wrench manufacturer unknown
Jack with collapsing two piece handle - King Dick
Tire iron manufacturer unknown
Tire air pump - I know it’s original but I can’t recall the manufacturer
Lockheed brake bleeder tube
Grease gun - Enots
3 DOE spanners - King Dick
3 tube spanners - King Dick (missing one)
Screwdriver- King Dick
Cylinder head closed spanner unknown manufacturer
7” adjustable wrench - King Dick (marked Made in England)
3/4# hammer unknown manufacturer
2 tire removal bars - Dunlop
6” pliers - King Dick
1/4 W hex closed spanner - King Dick
Small screwdriver w/feeler - Lucas
Feeler gap gauge - King Dick
Small brass tire air valve wrench - Dunlop
There you have it Al. I’m just one wrench short of a complete set. I hope this information is helpful to you.
Jim C.
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Thanks Jim. I'll keep an eye out for the tube spanner.
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Many thanks Al. I’ve been looking for that tube spanner for a few years now. Most of the tools came with the car, but I’ve had to track down a few too. As you know, authentic original factory supplied tools are tough to come by and when they do show up, they’re expensive. There’s a guy in Pennsylvania that specializes in old British car parts, factory supplied tool kits and auto paraphernalia. I did buy a few things from him including the reproduction tool role. He sells nice stuff and he’s extremely knowledgeable about what he sells. But that comes with a price. If you ever do find that tube spanner, let me have the first shot at it if you don’t need it. I’m not looking for a freebie!!
I’ve collected some other Whitworth tools over the years, that I actually used to restore the car, and still use to maintain it. I don’t use any of the original tools supplied with the car. Back in the early 1960s, Sears/Craftsman offered a set of Whitworth wrenches and sockets. The sockets were all 1/2” drive. I collected the set in anticipation of eventually buying the car. When the time finally came to do some restoration work, I found that the Craftsman 1/2” drive stuff was too big to effectively use, and the wrenches were too long. In a mad scramble to find some Whitworth tools, I came across Koken sockets in 1/4” and 3/8” drives. Those were great to use and the quality was very good. They were a bit pricey but not as expensive as Snap On. I also came across a set of Whitworth SuperSlim wrenches that are okay and a set of Proto wrenches that I used and still use. The Whitworth tools are out there, you just have to find what works best with the British vehicle you’re working on.
Jim C.
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dimensions or writing on the missing tube spanner?
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"missing is the 5/16 W x 3/8 W tube spanner" - I checked my tube spanner stuff for sale and do not have one.
I have a (I think) complete set of T Williams SuperSlim wrenches and box ends. Having older British motorcycles they are a neccessity.
Regards
Al