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Title: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 13, 2018, 11:20:04 PM
Here is the beginning of my application to join PHARTS. LOML remembers putting a box full in the new shed.....2 years ago. I'll get them out as soon as I can. For starts I have a 6-7/8" Hercules  made is USA


My little hatchet is 9" long, marked DGM  Nr 5664-87 on one side and GERMANY on the other side.




This 4 pc set was given to me by a friend, they are in brand new condition. The only marking is on the next to largest one and say IRWIN-USA


I'll post the rest of my application ASAP. Papadan
Title: Re: Ophicial PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 14, 2018, 12:35:23 AM
Ooo, Ooo, Ooo! I made it. I'm an ophicial old PHARTS member. I want to thank the academy, my better half, and Papaw for this honor! ;-)
Title: Re: Ophicial PHARTS Application
Post by: lptools on October 14, 2018, 05:27:20 AM
Hello, Papadan. Nice tools, first hatchet I have seen!!! Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Ophicial PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 14, 2018, 02:45:12 PM
Thanks Lou. I have been doing some carving as of late and use this little hatchet to remove larger pieces of wood instead of a chisel or knife. When I find the box, I have one or 2 more of these little hatchets.
Title: Re: Ophicial PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 14, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
I wonder if I might qualify? Here are my credentials. My collection of wartime ink marked Irwin screwdrivers followed by some handle stamped Tobrins
-Don
Title: Re: Ophicial PHARTS Application
Post by: Yadda on October 14, 2018, 06:34:15 PM
Very nice collections.  I see very few of these and they are always overpriced in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 14, 2018, 09:37:11 PM
WW2 Ink marked Irwin screwdrivers, particularly the 11” version are very rare and greatly prized by Jeep and other WW2 collectors. They will always be expensive. Here is a catalog page the old PHARTS may like to see.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 14, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
It is barely possible for this old PHART to have a tool older than himself. Here is the proof.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 14, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Welcome to the club D42Jeep, you are an old PHARTS now.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 15, 2018, 12:58:38 AM
That’s what my wife says too, but she spells it differently. Thanks!
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 15, 2018, 09:07:13 AM
Don't know what the intention of PHARTS exactly is.
Apparently has to do with vintage screwdrivers with riveted wooden handles.
Own a few including four IRWIN-USofA GOV. STOCK # 41-S-1076.
WW2 surplus, bought nearly forty years ago at the Amsterdam flea market.

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Papaw on October 15, 2018, 10:44:21 AM
Originally it was for those of us who collected H D Smith Perfect Handle tools and perhaps rebuilt them or in general admired them. Now I say it can be anyone who collects and admires perfect handle style tools such as H D Smith, Irwin, and the German made ones seen often.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 15, 2018, 10:59:21 AM
Don't know what the intention of PHARTS exactly is.
Apparently has to do with vintage screwdrivers with riveted wooden handles.
Own a few including four IRWIN-USofA GOV. STOCK # 41-S-1076.
WW2 surplus, bought nearly forty years ago at the Amsterdam flea market.

Regards
Henri
After much research by WW2 tool collectors, it has been determined that the Federal Stock Number
41-S-1076 marked screwdrivers are actually Korean War vintage, in case you're interested. The ink marked Irwin perfect handle drivers have been clearly seen in several WW2 pictures.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 15, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
Don, thanks for your explanation about the marking 41-S-1076.
In recent years, I have not gone into that matter any more.
So now it is clear that they are after WW2. So be it.
I'll keep them anyway.

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Yadda on October 15, 2018, 08:09:40 PM
Don't know what the intention of PHARTS exactly is.
Apparently has to do with vintage screwdrivers with riveted wooden handles.
Own a few including four IRWIN-USofA GOV. STOCK # 41-S-1076.
WW2 surplus, bought nearly forty years ago at the Amsterdam flea market.

Regards
Henri

Even 40 years ago that was a nice day at the flea market! Nice collection Henri!
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 16, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
Originally it was for those of us who collected H D Smith Perfect Handle tools and perhaps rebuilt them or in general admired them. Now I say it can be anyone who collects and admires perfect handle style tools such as H D Smith, Irwin, and the German made ones seen often.
I am honored to be a member of PHARTS.
Besides the Irwin's, I have a 10" Ryan, marked RYAN TOOLS, made by the J.J.Ryan Tool Company, Southington, Conn.
Still looking for German ones.

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: lptools on October 17, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Hello, And here is my stash of H D Smith Perfect Handle Tools!!  I have more of the Perfect Handle style screwdrivers ( not H D Smith, and far from perfect), around here, will post pics when I find them. Regards, lou
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Bill Houghton on October 17, 2018, 04:59:38 PM
Still looking for German ones.

Regards
Henri
But, if you find them, you'll be a member of the PGAWFV  (Perfekter Griff Anerkennung Wiederherstellung und Folter Verein, as best the online translator can do for me; and I recognize that, in proper German, the word order might differ from English), which probably isn't a good pun even in German.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 17, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Here is a little German one.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 17, 2018, 05:47:53 PM
Have not gotten into the shed yet, but I found a picture of a few of my other pieces.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Yadda on October 17, 2018, 06:56:02 PM
Neat pic.  The screwdriver on the right is really neat.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 17, 2018, 07:53:48 PM
Neat pic.  The screwdriver on the right is really neat.
It is neat, Lou has one just like it pictured above, opened.
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: p_toad on October 17, 2018, 07:55:44 PM
Does this one count?

I feel like a raw recruit next to all of you.   :tongue:
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 17, 2018, 11:29:30 PM
It definitly  counts, just don't know that it is enough for membership. ;-(
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 18, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
Here is a little German one.
-Don

Don, thanks for the picture.
Remember seeing a couple in very bad condition.
I keep searching.

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 18, 2018, 08:57:01 PM
My pleasure, Henri. I took a picture of my perfect handle Whitman & Barnes monkey wrenches today.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 19, 2018, 05:19:23 AM
Nice wrenches, Don.
I bought these years ago from an Army surplus dealer in Amsterdam.

Regards
Henri

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3813/11116261696_8c780988ac_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hWiKjq)Adjustable wrenches (https://flic.kr/p/hWiKjq) by Henri Nasutus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/100761653@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 19, 2018, 05:51:08 AM
Henri,
Nice collection. The handle on your Whitman & Barnes looks like new. I think that I have a similar Trimo.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on October 19, 2018, 06:40:07 AM
Don, I remember the B & W wrench was still in conservation grease when I bought it.

Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: papadan on October 19, 2018, 10:01:25 PM
Don, I remember the B & W wrench was still in conservation grease when I bought it.

Henri
Always nice to find brand new old tools, I love cosmolene! ;-)
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on October 21, 2018, 09:36:14 PM
I’m a big fan of cosmoline too. I have a few items that I refuse to clean it off of. Here is a perfect handle Trimo.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on November 19, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
Got this screwdriver from a friend who does house clearances.
No makers mark and no rivets. Length 5¾".
German ?

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Papaw on November 19, 2018, 09:46:15 AM
Hard to tell by the picture, but is the end a cap that screws on? There are German ones almost exactly like H D Smith, ones that have a hex shaft, and ones similar to yours. Here is one on Ebay that looks like yours. Another question- Is the wood held on with rivets, or is it one piece and end on by the end cap ?


Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: Nasutushenri on November 19, 2018, 12:46:51 PM
Mine is equal to the one on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-WOOD-INLAY-HANDLE-FLAT-BLADE-ANTIQUE-SCREWDRIVER-5-5-/232981122955?oid=332787531838
The head is not a screwed-on cap, the metal is one piece.
The two pieces of wood are not held by rivets, but by means of protrusions, I think.

Regards
Henri
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: d42jeep on November 07, 2019, 02:11:35 AM
Here are a couple of recent finds that I thought the other PHARTS might like to see. The first came from an eBay seller in Canada and will go into my WW2 GMTK since it is a perfect “41-S-1385 Extra Heavy Duty Screwdriver 5" Blade”
The second is a true original HD Smith tiny screwdriver I found in the wild last weekend.
-Don
Title: Re: Official PHARTS Application
Post by: leg17 on November 07, 2019, 11:09:58 AM
Here are a couple of recent finds that I thought the other PHARTS might like to see. .....
The second is a true original HD Smith tiny screwdriver I found in the wild last weekend.
-Don

COOL.  Never saw a "2" before.