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Title: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Ken W. on June 25, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
I saw this ad for tools. In it is this vise for $ 30.00. It says it was professionally welded. I'm not a welder by trade but I think that this is a crappy weld job. If my weld looked like that I would have ground it down and painted it. And the ad says it's worth that in scrap. Why wouldn't you scrap it then ??   

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/tls/d/craftsman-porter-cable-vise/6621328490.html?lang=en&cc=gb
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Spartan-C on June 25, 2018, 12:53:36 PM
Yeah, It's just going to break off again next to the weld.  Durocraft=Junk.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: mrchuck on June 25, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
Agree 100%.
If one wants a USA quality vise,I have a shop full of them reasonably priced. It's the freight charge that UPS gets that's high!
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Papaw on June 25, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
IANA Welder, and that looks like the stuff I used to do when I tried to weld. Mudobbing I think it is called.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: EVILDR235 on June 25, 2018, 02:35:19 PM
Professionally welded by who,  Little Stevie Wonder ?

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Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: slip knot on June 25, 2018, 05:30:09 PM
SO, He paid someone to do that?????
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: gibsontool on June 25, 2018, 08:50:47 PM
The only success I've ever had repairing broken or cracked vises is by brazing them.I think most of them are cast steel and there well may be some cast welding rods out there for sale now that can do the job but I have not done any repairs to a vise for about 15 or so years.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Nolatoolguy on June 25, 2018, 10:21:46 PM
The only success I've ever had repairing broken or cracked vises is by brazing them.I think most of them are cast steel and there well may be some cast welding rods out there for sale now that can do the job but I have not done any repairs to a vise for about 15 or so years.

A good welder could tig weld one. You can stick or wire feed but in my expierence not very good. Brazing works in some applications. Pre and post heat are critical.

I did probably 40 vises a few years ago in highschool. I scrapped most but I got good practice. Large marjority of them were junky imported vises.

Sadly I no longer have access to a large tig machine for whatever I want.

Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: EVILDR235 on June 26, 2018, 12:56:44 AM
Bolt a chain on to it for your bass boat if you get my drift. Yes, pun intended.

EvilDr235
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Lostmind on June 26, 2018, 07:11:34 AM
The only success I've ever had repairing broken or cracked vises is by brazing them.I think most of them are cast steel and there well may be some cast welding rods out there for sale now that can do the job but I have not done any repairs to a vise for about 15 or so years.

I was gifted a brazed vise over 50 years ago. I used it hard ,never thought about it breaking. It looked to be at least 50 years old when I got. Wonder what will happen to it when I'm gone.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Uncle Buck on June 26, 2018, 09:22:53 AM
It was a wasted effort on a vise that was junk new. With no repair the vise would not be worth $30 to me.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Ken W. on June 26, 2018, 12:06:49 PM

I was gifted a brazed vise over 50 years ago. I used it hard ,never thought about it breaking. It looked to be at least 50 years old when I got. Wonder what will happen to it when I'm gone.
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 Bass boat anchor.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Uncle Buck on June 26, 2018, 12:57:54 PM

I was gifted a brazed vise over 50 years ago. I used it hard ,never thought about it breaking. It looked to be at least 50 years old when I got. Wonder what will happen to it when I'm gone.

 Bass boat anchor.
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Not likely, it would have been a quality vise, with obviously a good repair to withstand 50 years of hard use. Someone will give it a home. Not many crap import vises around 50 years ago.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: kwoswalt99 on June 26, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
The only success I've ever had repairing broken or cracked vises is by brazing them.I think most of them are cast steel and there well may be some cast welding rods out there for sale now that can do the job but I have not done any repairs to a vise for about 15 or so years.

Most vises are grey cast iron, more specifically semi-steel, which is a lower carbon content grey cast iron. There’s only 3 manufactures I know of that made cast steel vises.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: Yadda on June 26, 2018, 07:59:37 PM

I was gifted a brazed vise over 50 years ago. I used it hard ,never thought about it breaking. It looked to be at least 50 years old when I got. Wonder what will happen to it when I'm gone.

 Bass boat anchor.
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Will it to me.  I don't want you to worry about it.  :grin:
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: slip knot on June 26, 2018, 08:50:29 PM
I've got a Chas Parker that was welded up yrs ago. I've had it 35+ yrs of abuse and it has held up admirably.

The old dude that repaired my vise knew what he was doing. unlike the guy who "welded" on this one.
Title: Re: PROFESSIONALLY WELDED VISE CL AD
Post by: DeadNutz on June 27, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
I want to know who is the scrapper who will give him $30 for that vise? I will send him loads of scrap if he is paying that much a pound.