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Title: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 07, 2016, 05:27:42 PM
Does anyone out there recognize this thing ?

I have no clue.  :sad:

Looks like someone is playing a dirty trick.  :angry:

Thanks,
 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Northwoods on June 07, 2016, 05:50:40 PM
Looks like it would be perfect for ambidextrous folks chopping their ears off.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: lptools on June 07, 2016, 06:41:35 PM
Is that a manufacturer's mark in the first photo?
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 07, 2016, 07:02:08 PM
Can't really make out the stamping, will look again more closely .... maybe take a macro pic for you folks.
Thanks.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: oldgoaly on June 07, 2016, 07:12:42 PM
I'd say it has to do with timber framing and making tendons or dovetail joints.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Bill Houghton on June 09, 2016, 01:39:49 PM
I'd say it has to do with timber framing and making tendons or dovetail joints.
As far as I know, only God* and/or biology can make a tendon.  Tenons, now, that's a different matter.

I agree that it probably most likely could be has to do with timber shaping of some kind.  I notice that it's designed for someone to use from one side of the work; if you imagine a handle on it, and spin the head around, the cutter presents to the work the same way on both sides.  Maybe it was for someone who didn't want to stop and sharpen too often.
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*Props to Joyce Kilmer and her poem "Trees," the punchline of which I am paraphrasing/stealing
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: lptools on June 09, 2016, 04:55:14 PM
Hello, Bill. I tried to flip it around 180° like a propellor, or rotating it 180° like clock hands, and I agree it still cuts from the same side from both ends. Oldgoaly, I hope you don't mind a little teasing, when I read "making tendons", I started to squirm. I recently separated the tendon from the top of my kneecap, :embarrassed: & had it re-attached. I would hate to think the surgeon was using one of those while I was under anesthesia!!!!! http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/Smileys/popos/shocked.gif
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: oldgoaly on June 09, 2016, 08:15:36 PM
no problem I speel tearable!
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: RWalters on June 09, 2016, 09:19:52 PM
Bill Houghton - His poem, not hers. Alfred Joyce Kilmer was an American poet. He was killed in the Second Battle of the Marne in 1918. While "Trees" is arguably his best known work, he did publish other poems before his untimely death.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: turnnut on June 09, 2016, 09:29:54 PM
looking at this tool a few times, and reading about turning the tool 180 degrees, yes, it would be the same, but,
if you removed the handle and put it in on the other side, now you would be cutting to the left.

a thought occurred to me,  it may be way off base, but, if you had a tree lying on the ground and was standing on it,
could you debark it with this tool instead of a debarking spud ??

 just a random thought from an old feeble mind.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Bill Houghton on June 09, 2016, 10:04:51 PM
Bill Houghton - His poem, not hers. Alfred Joyce Kilmer was an American poet. He was killed in the Second Battle of the Marne in 1918. While "Trees" is arguably his best known work, he did publish other poems before his untimely death.
Thank you for the correction.  I didn't know, as I demonstrated earlier today.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 10, 2016, 07:02:59 AM

a thought occurred to me,  it may be way off base, but, if you had a tree lying on the ground and was standing on it,
could you debark it with this tool instead of a debarking spud ??
 

I'm with you there Turnnut  :smiley:
One edge may have been sharpened for breaching the bark (or cutting a small limb/knot) and the other edge dubbed off as to follow the separation and not dig into the log or the peeling bark.
One could put the handle in whichever side is most comfortable regarding dexterity, then work the log up one side then down the other.
The curve matches some of the "pole" type spuds I've seen while searching around for clues.
Although I cannot find any other examples, I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut you are right.
Thanks,
 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 10, 2016, 07:57:25 AM
Is that a manufacturer's mark in the first photo?

Here is a close-up of the stamping.
I can't quite make it out.
Maybe you can ... or might recognize it.
Thanks,
 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: lptools on June 10, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Hello, Turnnut. I stand corrected!!! You figured out a way to make it ambidextrous. Thanks, Lou
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: turnnut on June 20, 2016, 08:42:53 PM
 I  believe that my theory is wrong.

 stay tuned to this subject.   the answer may be posted soon.

 I have to verify my new findings.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Northwoods on June 20, 2016, 08:56:38 PM
Bill Houghton - His poem, not hers. Alfred Joyce Kilmer was an American poet. He was killed in the Second Battle of the Marne in 1918. While "Trees" is arguably his best known work, he did publish other poems before his untimely death.

Do you suppose his Tree had a wood pecker?  Sorry, but I just couldn't resist.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 21, 2016, 04:47:59 AM
I  believe that my theory is wrong.

 stay tuned to this subject.   the answer may be posted soon.

 I have to verify my new findings.

Waiting anxiously.
Thanks,
 :cheesy:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on June 21, 2016, 04:49:52 AM


Do you suppose his Tree had a wood pecker?  Sorry, but I just couldn't resist.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Papaw on June 25, 2016, 04:46:57 PM
Turnnut has found the answer!
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: bill300d on June 25, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
That description seems plausible to me.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 01, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
Turnnut has found the answer!

Nice attempt ..... but, I don't think so.  :rolleyes:
A "pick" handle would never fit this, more like a 3 lb hammer handle.
Look at the size comparison in the photo with the other tool.

More research required.

Thanks,
 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: turnnut on July 01, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Wallhopper,  what is the dimensions of the eye ?  length, width & depth ?

 also, what is the overall length of the head ?
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: lptools on July 01, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
Hello, Wallhopper. The overall weight might give a clue.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 02, 2016, 07:34:33 AM
I'll get some more info soon, Thanks
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 03, 2016, 06:54:45 AM
Stamp says Anderson Detroit. Found company catalog but this tool was not in it.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 03, 2016, 07:27:57 AM
Dimensions  :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: turnnut on July 03, 2016, 12:34:52 PM
after seeing the measurements,  it could be a stone masons chipping hammer ???
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 04, 2016, 07:29:38 AM
http://trowelcollector.blogspot.com/2014/12/history-of-wh-anderson-sons-detroit.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzJxodHACRRuRnJCaGd0ZDVZYmc/view?pref=2&pli=1

May be another catalog somewhere that includes this tool ?
This is all I could find.
I agree turnnut, looking like a masons tool of some sort.

Maybe for separating slate ? ? ? or other "layered" types of stone ? ? ?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 04, 2016, 08:06:02 AM
One more dynamite resource .........
http://www.toolemera.com/catpdf/waterstonCat52.pdf
 :smiley:

But, no weirdo  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 08, 2016, 07:22:27 AM
Appears to very, VERY few items posted on this forum that truly stump the historians.
Looks like this might be one to add to (or start) a list.  :cheesy:

Might consider offering a reward.  :grin:

Thanks for ALL of you efforts,
 :smiley:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: gibsontool on July 08, 2016, 09:40:20 AM
Interesting catalog, do you have any idea of what year it was put out?
Final thought on the tool.
For shaping Himalayan rock salt.
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Papaw on July 08, 2016, 11:21:50 AM
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For shaping Himalayan rock salt.
Modify message
:grin:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: Wallhopper on July 09, 2016, 07:44:14 AM
Here is another excellent reference to old tools. (prices subject to change without notice  :grin: )

https://books.google.com/books?id=mv8GAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA200&dq=%22brick+axe%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqiqvI9ePNAhUMWh4KHakjDl4Q6AEIMjAC#v=onepage&q=%22brick%20axe%22&f=false

A friend suggested that it could possibly be a curved version of a "brick axe" for hard to reach places but still no actual illustrations have been found.

The search goes on. Off to the Himalayas.  :wink:
Title: Re: What is this weirdo ?
Post by: turnnut on July 09, 2016, 10:06:11 AM
 I am still sticking with; stone mason chipping hammer.