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Title: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 18, 2016, 03:56:10 PM
Of course you know my name, I am 56 years old and purchase and old farmette that no one had lived on for many many years,
There are a dozen buildings and all look very similar to the one below in the pics.

Started sifting through the stuff/junk about every other sentence was what the heck is that. :-)

So, sure would like your help in the future for some identification, did notice just a huge pile of old tools along with lots of farm stuff, most I could identify but some has me just baffled.

Really like just looking through all of this stuff.

(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/00001.jpg)

(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/00002.jpg)

(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/00003.jpg)

(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/00004.jpg)

Thanks for having me! Cheers - Jeff
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Northwoods on March 18, 2016, 06:53:44 PM
What's that gadget in the bottom corner of the second picture?  An automatic waterer for livestock?
BTW, What is the hubcap from, guys?  It's bugging me!

You have a grand adventure before you.  You are to be envied!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Papaw on March 18, 2016, 07:38:05 PM
Welcome to Tool Talk! You have a lot of stuff to go through.
By the way- If you can resize your pictures a bit they will be easier for us to see.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: turnnut on March 18, 2016, 08:42:47 PM
yes, I could spend a day looking thru that trove.

in the 1st picture,  that threaded rod going thru a block,  is that about 1 1/8 inch in diameter ?
??? how long ???   might be from a apple grinder ???   
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Plyerman on March 18, 2016, 09:15:21 PM
Greetings Jeff! Man if you need any help going through that treasure trove, I'm only one state over.... :wink:




Welcome to Tool Talk! You have a lot of stuff to go through.
By the way- If you can resize your pictures a bit they will be easier for us to see.

(On a side note, the pictures look fine to me, but I've got a fairly wide screen. For future reference Noel, what size pictures do you recommend? 700 wide? 600? Thanks!)
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 18, 2016, 10:02:30 PM
What's that gadget in the bottom corner of the second picture?  An automatic waterer for livestock?
BTW, What is the hubcap from, guys?  It's bugging me!

You have a grand adventure before you.  You are to be envied!

Yes Nothwoods that is a cattle waterer, automatic only to the extent of them pressing the plunger down with their nose.
I will take a better pic of the hubcap and post, maybe it will be easier to identify.


Welcome to Tool Talk! You have a lot of stuff to go through.
By the way- If you can resize your pictures a bit they will be easier for us to see.

Thanks Papaw, yes quite the chore and this is only one building, daunting at best. :-)
Hosting the pics myself and loaded 1500 but the forum software automatically resizes to 1000, if you open in a new tab or window they will be larger.


yes, I could spend a day looking thru that trove.

in the 1st picture,  that threaded rod going thru a block,  is that about 1 1/8 inch in diameter ?
??? how long ???   might be from a apple grinder ???

Yes you could turnut, and then some, the majority can't even be seen without excavation.
The threaded rod I would say is about 1" and maybe 12 to 14 long and you can see the jaw of the wood vise, but that doesn't mean the man didn't repurpose that rod and handle.
I will take a few close up pics with a tape on hand and post, maybe tomorrow.


Greetings Jeff! Man if you need any help going through that treasure trove, I'm only one state over.... :wink:

Welcome to Tool Talk! You have a lot of stuff to go through.
By the way- If you can resize your pictures a bit they will be easier for us to see.

(On a side note, the pictures look fine to me, but I've got a fairly wide screen. For future reference Noel, what size pictures do you recommend? 700 wide? 600? Thanks!)

Hey Plyerman, thanks, appreciate the offer but can only spend a couple hours a day surgically removing everything. It will be interesting to say the least.

Tell you what, I will take pics of this venture and post here,  unless it would be best to start a new thread somewhere else? and you all can have a look without having to do the work. Hmmm why dosen't that sound fair? lol

Anywho, thanks for the welcomes and replies fellas!

Cheers Jeff
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Papaw on March 18, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
Post them here, it will be ok. 1000 on the long side is fine.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 19, 2016, 06:23:01 AM
A few more pics.


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0005.jpg)




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(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0012.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0014.jpg)


More to come, thanks for stopping by!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: kxxr on March 19, 2016, 06:52:42 AM
Wear gloves, boots and a weapon for anything that turns out to not be a worm. Have fun!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 20, 2016, 07:14:12 PM
Wear gloves, boots and a weapon for anything that turns out to not be a worm. Have fun!


Good idea, lots of mouse turds in there and God what else. lol




Progress.


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(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0026.jpg)


Well Its a start anyways. :-)

O yah, there are some really neat wrenches and things, pretty rough shape so they are spinning in the cement mixer with some Black Blast Blasting Sand, will take some pics asap and post.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: turnnut on March 20, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
yes a lot of goodies,

picture 20, the box with the mouse trap on it, those look like steel wheel lugs off of a walking garden tractor  ?????

picture 24,  those look like they may be clamps for steel fence post.  ?????? 
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 20, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
yes a lot of goodies,

picture 20, the box with the mouse trap on it, those look like steel wheel lugs off of a walking garden tractor  ?????

picture 24,  those look like they may be clamps for steel fence post.  ??????


20 yes steel wheel cleats, but off a much larger McCormick Deering 10/20 Tractor, 10/20 stands for 10hp on the pull/tongue and 20hp PTO/ belt. Even though the hp seams small the tractor was accually quite large.


24 No, but they could be used for that. They are for connecting the pipe stanchions in the barn, the upright pipe was cemented in the curb that separated the manger from the actual stall and these T's were used to fasten the long horizontal pipe that ran above all the heads and the clamps were used for the cow divider pipers. you can see them in the pic below, sorry it grainy but had to blow it up and 14 years ago the digital camera's took like 2mp pics. lol




(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/Stanchion_Brackets.jpg)


We live in this barn now.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 22, 2016, 06:36:12 AM
Some of the tools we found so far.
The ones on the right hand side of the table still need to go in the drum sander.


See anything interesting? Or maybe it would be best if I threw them all in the scrap bin??


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_001.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_002.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_003.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_004.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_005.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_006.png)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/old_tools_007.jpg)




If you would like better pics of any one thing let me know.



Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Northwoods on March 22, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Throw them away?  That's not the kind of thing we ever contemplate here..
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: leg17 on March 22, 2016, 09:33:51 AM
Throw them away?  That's not the kind of thing we ever contemplate here..

That's blasphemy!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 22, 2016, 09:48:35 AM
If I saw someone throw those tools in the pig pen I would jump in there wearing my sunday best just to get em.


No way are they going in the bin, OK .. had my fun with that statement.


Question?


In a couple of those pics you can see a large wedge, it's like 24 inches long and weighs like 15 lbs, just doesn't seem possible they would use that for tree felling, maybe it is? any ideas?





Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: gibsontool on March 22, 2016, 02:26:46 PM
You had us worried with that scrap bin comment.
 I can see how that wedge would come in handy in the steel fabrication trade.Most fabricators have a couple in their toolbox. That length seems a little long to me,normal length would be in the 8' 12' to range.
 Back in the 70's and 80's a lot of building columns only had two base plate bolts,we used wedges similar to that on the 2 other sides to stabilize the column until things were all tied in,again the ones we used were only about a foot long x about 2' thick on the big end. Most buildings that I've had any thing to do with in the last 20 years or so all had 4 bolt base plates. 
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 22, 2016, 03:23:10 PM
You had us worried with that scrap bin comment.
 I can see how that wedge would come in handy in the steel fabrication trade.Most fabricators have a couple in their toolbox. That length seems a little long to me,normal length would be in the 8' 12' to range.
 Back in the 70's and 80's a lot of building columns only had two base plate bolts,we used wedges similar to that on the 2 other sides to stabilize the column until things were all tied in,again the ones we used were only about a foot long x about 2' thick on the big end. Most buildings that I've had any thing to do with in the last 20 years or so all had 4 bolt base plates.




I could see that, now that  you mentioned what it may have been used for; i wish we would've had some 2 years back. Myself running a crew of 12 put up 6 freestalls and one milking parlor in 6 months, on the freestalls like you said all if the main outside supports were either 4/6/8 bolt but the inner supports sat a 3 foot tall poured concrete knee walls and they were only 2 bolt, I could see how a few of those wedges and a couple magnetic levels could of make our lives a whole lot easier, the top of the poured knee wall were never totally flat and the 6 inch pole 20/30 foot tall would wobble around till the purlins were in place. Don't do that work anymore but if I did. :-) O yah.


I think this would be overkill in that situation and since this was found with farming tools .... well thinking that it may have had another use, but to be honest; who knows for sure. The man did build poured concrete silos, wondering if they would use this these to tighten the circle rebar the held the wood forms in place. Hmmm


Interesting, thanks for reply, keeps us thinking.

Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Plyerman on March 22, 2016, 05:56:49 PM
On the far right, and in the center up-and-down; does that bent bar have a closed wrench end? Wow, I can only imagine the obstacles that was meant to get around.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 22, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
On the far right, and in the center up-and-down; does that bent bar have a closed wrench end? Wow, I can only imagine the obstacles that was meant to get around.


This one? I reads -   ALLOY


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/Bent_box_end.jpg)
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 22, 2016, 10:17:40 PM
More clean out, WooHoo :embarrassed:




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(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0038.jpg)




More to come  :wink:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Lostmind on March 23, 2016, 07:55:38 AM
On the far right, and in the center up-and-down; does that bent bar have a closed wrench end? Wow, I can only imagine the obstacles that was meant to get around.


This one? I reads -   ALLOY

Chevy tire wrench from mid '20's


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/Bent_box_end.jpg)
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: bill300d on March 23, 2016, 04:04:35 PM
Twas the handle for the jack too or was I misinformed
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: turnnut on March 24, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
that was a tire/wheel/jack wrench as stated by bill300d and lostmind.

in the December 2002 MVWC newsletter, on page 8;  patent no. 1,609,732 patented issued on Dec. 7, 1926 and
the patentee's assigned it to General Motors Corporation;

combination rim bolt wrench, tire iron & jack handle.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 24, 2016, 08:30:01 PM
Thanks guys


Are these rare, could only find 2 pictures on google, and it just to happens I have 2 of these, going to sell em on evilbay was hoping to find collector's value but it there is one thing that I found selling thousands of items is that eventually someone will pay your price. lol


More done just before the 10 inches of snow hit us yesterday. :rolleyes:


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0039.jpg)


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More to come. :smiley:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Northwoods on March 24, 2016, 10:16:18 PM
Pic 40
Got any rusty cans that need to be opened?
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: bill300d on March 25, 2016, 04:29:03 PM
I think that wheel barrow in the last pic needs new handles.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Northwoods on March 25, 2016, 05:16:36 PM
Bottom left corner of #33:  Is that a T Rex ankle and foot?
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on March 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Pic 40
Got any rusty cans that need to be opened?


Rusty, crusty but trusty; tinseled beef is what's for supper. A special from 1912. yummmmm




[/size]I think that wheel barrow in the last pic needs new handles.



No I don't think so, that is for a one armed man.  :grin:




Bottom left corner of #33:  Is that a T Rex ankle and foot?


You have quite the vivid imagination there Northwoods, going to bring in an archaeologist just be sure but by George I think your right. :huh:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on April 01, 2016, 08:07:11 AM
Just more progress.  :embarrassed:


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0051.jpg)


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Can of worms is an understatement!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Plyerman on April 01, 2016, 09:20:00 AM
Wow, you and the scrap metal guy are going to be on a first name basis!


(BTW, I like how you had to cordon off the bonfire area to keep the weenie-roasting crowd under control.) :wink:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on April 03, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
Last set a pics, not sure anyone finds this much interesting so will end this venture here, will have to admit it was fun and lots of little surprises along the way.


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0062.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0063.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0063.jpg)


(http://driedhotpeppers.com/What_is_it/0064.jpg)


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Thanks for stopping by!! Cheers - Jeff
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Northwoods on April 03, 2016, 04:11:38 PM
Say, can you tell us what those ring and post ? thingies are in picture #60?
I want to think that they might be sign stands, but doesn't seem right.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on April 03, 2016, 04:31:36 PM
the one highlighted in the pic?



Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: john k on April 03, 2016, 08:48:59 PM
The hubcap is from a 1939 Mercury.  The steel wheels on axles, are probably the wheels to the small trucks for flywheel engines.  Was quite a dairy there once upon a time.   The angle iron things, with hooks on them, are probably the buckets used to elevate grain to the top of a large wooden grain bin.  I see a metal detector there, isn't there enough iron in the sheds, without digging up more?...****
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: turnnut on April 03, 2016, 08:54:35 PM
ring looks like a barrel cover and locking ring.
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: john k on April 03, 2016, 11:34:11 PM
In pic 62 the long curved piece is from a tillage implement,  in some places called a subsoiler.  In Pic 51 is a galvanized can in the center,  that is a corn planter box, on the lid is IHC, a collectible.  In 52, the big hooks, were attached to a rope, and dropped from the barn haymow down to a wagon of hay, to be hoisted inside, those are big ones. 65, the red pipes  with the curve, look like gate closer/locks, great when one has livestock. 
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: crankshaftdan II on April 05, 2016, 06:44:37 AM
Man o Man--and I thought that I am a saver!   You have your work cut out for you and your helpers!   Lot's of rusty gold there to comb thru-keep us posted as to the rest of your historical finds!!!!!!!!!! :cheesy:............Cranky
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Jeff from Wisconsin on April 05, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
Hey fellas, sorry for the delay, auction time and just massively busy with bids and pick-up not any time to respond in kind; but I will soon!


Thanks for looking. Cheer - Jeff
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Plyerman on April 06, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
Y'know, your pictures remind me of a hunting trip we took out to the Midwest farm country a few years ago. Driving miles and miles down gravel roads, every farm we came to had an unbelievable (to us) assortment of junk vehicles, junk tractors, junk semi-trucks, and just plain junk piled up around the barns. Rusty metal everywhere, just like in your photos. And this was back when scrap steel was fetching over $500/ton. It was astounding to think how much money in old iron these guys were sitting on. But why, we wondered, were none of these farmers calling the scrap dealers and cashing in?

The best answer came from one of the local hired hands we talked to. He said that the junk piles were like a form of status out here. Whoever had the most junk was the envy of all his neighbors. Only it wasn't junk see, it was all good "stuff," just waiting for a good use to come along.

So anyhow Jeff, you might want to reconsider cleaning up all your "stuff." With no rusty piles of metal around your barns, you're going to end up being the laughingstock of your whole neighborhood, heh heh.  :grin:
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: crankshaftdan II on April 07, 2016, 09:53:59 AM
RE:

Picture #64 the blue tube looks to might possibly be a I.H. Grease gun-if so, collectors are always looking for those???
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: Twertsy on May 12, 2016, 08:24:19 AM
That looks like a fun journey!!
Title: Re: Greetings, a dozen cans of worms
Post by: TomHuett on May 17, 2016, 08:34:39 PM
In Picture 51, I think the twisted metal pieces are the base to an ice cream parlor table. 

I could look at this stuff all day!!

Tom