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Title: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: blackoak on June 23, 2015, 11:56:57 AM
I have always said if a company is not willing to put their name on the product they produce, it must not be to proud of the finished product and must lack quality. I have these two 1/4" drive ratchets that are of the finest quality and they have no marks. Can anybody tell who made these?
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Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: bird on June 23, 2015, 07:08:47 PM
Isn't that design/ switch craftsman?
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: blackoak on June 24, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
The switch does look like Craftsman, but the other parts look nothing like any craftsman I have seen.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: Twertsy on June 24, 2015, 03:24:05 AM
The bottom rat is made by Moore Drop Forge. 

I'd have to dig out the collection to take a stab at the top one but I actually don't recall having anything similar to that design.  Which brings me to.........is it / are they for sale?

EDIT: So, nearest I can tell, that style has been made by at least Lowell Wrench Co., Wright, S-K and Walden.  Likelihood is that the ones with no markings are probably Wright.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: Lostmind on June 24, 2015, 06:43:10 AM
I've had several  of the top ones " frankenstien" is what they are referred to. Don't know the maker . They came in sets in the 60's
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: blackoak on June 24, 2015, 09:34:31 AM
The bottom rat is made by Moore Drop Forge. 

I'd have to dig out the collection to take a stab at the top one but I actually don't recall having anything similar to that design.  Which brings me to.........is it / are they for sale?

EDIT: So, nearest I can tell, that style has been made by at least Lowell Wrench Co., Wright, S-K and Walden.  Likelihood is that the ones with no markings are probably Wright.
Are you talking about the bottom one being Wright or the top one?. I'll probably hang on to them especially the top one. I use it often. It's smaller than most and you can get it in tighter spots than most 1/4" ratchets. Appreciate the info.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: Twertsy on June 24, 2015, 09:40:46 AM
The bottom rat is made by Moore Drop Forge. 

I'd have to dig out the collection to take a stab at the top one but I actually don't recall having anything similar to that design.  Which brings me to.........is it / are they for sale?

EDIT: So, nearest I can tell, that style has been made by at least Lowell Wrench Co., Wright, S-K and Walden.  Likelihood is that the ones with no markings are probably Wright.
Are you talking about the bottom one being Wright or the top one?. I'll probably hang on to them especially the top one. I use it often. It's smaller than most and you can get it in tighter spots than most 1/4" ratchets. Appreciate the info.

The bottom is definitely Moore Drop Forge.  The top one "most likely" made by Wright.  Although again, the makers I mention above had similar style ratchets but the "no name" ones are thought to be by Wright as a general consensus.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: J.A.F.E. on June 24, 2015, 10:10:42 PM
The top one is Wright. Fairly hard one to find too.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: Chillylulu on August 18, 2015, 07:28:41 PM
The early 60's Craftsman ratchets - at least in the 1962 catalog had that art deco arrow shape lever.  I think Moore was the manufacturer.  I have 3 or 4 but I am missing one shown in the 1962 catalog.

Chilly
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: J.A.F.E. on August 18, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
I think the bottom one was actually Easco. The MDF ratchets were a bit earlier.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: turnnut on August 18, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
if I remember right, Easco bought out Moore Drop Forge in Springfield, Mass.

then up and left the city.  Sears was a big customer.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: bonneyman on August 18, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
Top frankenstien is claimed to be made by Wright. I have one.

The bottom one looks like an EASCO "Star Trek" selector model.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: J.A.F.E. on August 18, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
This one is MDF made. There were two variations although the difference is pretty minor.

(http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq235/mcpfstevo/100_0772.jpg~original)

(http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq235/mcpfstevo/100_0773.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: bonneyman on August 18, 2015, 10:33:54 PM
Just love the classic look of the MDF Craftsman ratchets!
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: J.A.F.E. on August 19, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
They are nice ratchets but my all time favorite Craftsman ratchet is the Plomb made.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: bonneyman on August 19, 2015, 10:09:07 PM
They are nice ratchets but my all time favorite Craftsman ratchet is the Plomb made.

Then that would be the era prior to MDF?

In keeping on topic, here's a pic of the frankie rat taken apart.
Title: Re: Who made there 1/4" ratchets?
Post by: J.A.F.E. on August 20, 2015, 10:18:31 PM

Then that would be the era prior to MDF?


According to lauver in his amazing Craftsman history thread http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=867.0 (http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=867.0) Circle U (Plomb made) was 1944-1948. It seems the Circle V (MDF) was 1946 to to 60 something. So there may have been some overlap.

He does a great job decoding the marks and providing the history of the brand. Well worth reading.