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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1930 on January 22, 2015, 07:27:52 PM

Title: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 22, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Can someone help me date these (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0945_zpsxc3dpyk8.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0945_zpsxc3dpyk8.jpg.html) , one on the left Blue-point TF-528-D and the one on the right Snap-on TF-528-B.

The Snap-On I am especially interested in as it appears older and uses the metal case.

I am re-searching the Snap- On looking as well for an answer to the identity of the original tubing cutter, not much have I found but according to this site http://www.fvstore.com/Vintage-Snap-On-Blue-Point-TF-528-B-Copper-Tube-Cutter-amp-Flaring-Tool-Set/p1141884.html the cutter is described as ..........Vintage Snap-On, Blue-Point, TF-528-B, Copper Tube Cutter & Flaring Tool SetContains TC28A Blue-Point Tubing Cutter ............

Would this Blue-Point tubing cutter be correct for this kit, as luck would have it the later kit that I show uses a tubing cutter with this very same identity stamped into the body (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0947_zpsrnwo92ua.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0947_zpsrnwo92ua.jpg.html)

Id like to make this kit whole again so any help would be appreciated, Id like to find the absolute correct cutter.

Just for the heck of it I have googled Snap-On TF-528-A and received no hits, I figured there would have to be at least an A and then a B,C,D



Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: Aunt Phil on January 23, 2015, 12:08:05 AM
The tin box may say SnapOn, but I willguarantee you every tool in the box is Imperial Eastman.

Whatever you do, DON'T LOOSE THE AXLE SCREW.
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 23, 2015, 03:52:53 AM
The tin box may say SnapOn, but I willguarantee you every tool in the box is Imperial Eastman.

Whatever you do, DON'T LOOSE THE AXLE SCREW.
Yes, even the Blue-Point tubing cutter that is cast with the Blue-Point name has a large I ( assuming Imperial ) on the end of the plastic handle.
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: international3414 on January 23, 2015, 04:26:55 AM
bought this imperial eastman #93-fb brand new, about 15+ years ago.
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll153/richpoor1/th_001-172.jpg) (http://s287.photobucket.com/user/richpoor1/media/001-172.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 23, 2015, 05:13:42 AM
Also can someone tell me what these two rings are used for ( proper name would be a bonus )

They were found in the tray of the snapper kit. Thanks

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0952_zpsjd5n0zgo.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0952_zpsjd5n0zgo.jpg.html)

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0951_zps2sxbzj1x.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0951_zps2sxbzj1x.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: eddie hudson on January 23, 2015, 07:21:37 AM
Go to collectingsnapon.com and start looking thru the catalogs. You'll find out the date range of manufacture.
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: Aunt Phil on January 23, 2015, 01:37:25 PM
Oh Hell, lets not go all Nuke Industry demanding proper nomenclatures for tool enhancement devices.

The RINGS are clamping block enhancers to provide additional stickout from the clamping block when forming the first stage of the flare.  They are particularly helpful on some alloys of tubing to prevent wall crack and maintain tube shape while the button forms the bend in part of the flare.

They are also an acute PITA to find and use generally, and best stored by being wired together with the clamping block. 

Try that contraption on stainless for a demonstration.
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 23, 2015, 06:00:53 PM
Go to collectingsnapon.com and start looking thru the catalogs. You'll find out the date range of manufacture.
I will try that, thanks
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 23, 2015, 06:01:14 PM
Oh Hell, lets not go all Nuke Industry demanding proper nomenclatures for tool enhancement devices.

The RINGS are clamping block enhancers to provide additional stickout from the clamping block when forming the first stage of the flare.  They are particularly helpful on some alloys of tubing to prevent wall crack and maintain tube shape while the button forms the bend in part of the flare.

They are also an acute PITA to find and use generally, and best stored by being wired together with the clamping block. 

Try that contraption on stainless for a demonstration.
Ok good to know, thanks
Title: Re: Dating these kits
Post by: 1930 on January 29, 2015, 07:23:55 PM
Snap-Mom showed me the link with the picture that I have attached here dating the TF-528-B to be from 1971. They also sent me the correct cutter at no charge nearly completing the kit as it originally was sold.

A big thanks to Snap-Mom and Noel for having this forum where all tool enthusiasts can get together.

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/1971-Catalog-CA-p085_zpsxpcmbfug.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/1971-Catalog-CA-p085_zpsxpcmbfug.jpg.html)

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0958_zpsgochm6rp.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0958_zpsgochm6rp.jpg.html)