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Title: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 15, 2015, 06:24:44 PM
Man, what a Big show going on in Central Florida.
The Flywheelers show seems much bigger then I remember from 2 years ago, and we were able to see a good amount of quality tools.

I really like this little hammer, no markings of course !! Any idea of the manufacturer?
And another multi tool came home also.

What brand are those flattened (kinda), wide body vises? They make me think of a turtle. The Craptain showed me one he bought recently.  I ask about these, because a vendor had a small version (2") of those vises for $65  !!!!!!!!  Wow !!

Anyway, a good time was had !  Mikeswrenches, I was looking for you, but couldn't find you. Maybe the next show.

Brian    cell phone pics >> so so
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 15, 2015, 07:07:41 PM
Thanks for ruining my evening, I planned to go this weekend :(

Ok just looked, still going on until the 17th so Ill be heading there Sat, hope you left me something Brian
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: turnnut on January 15, 2015, 07:40:54 PM
1930, not to worry, there is enough for everyone that needs to bring an item home.

happy hunting.    Frank
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 15, 2015, 09:00:27 PM
1930 , There's lot's of vendors, lot of tools !


Brian
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: lauver on January 15, 2015, 10:01:19 PM
RedVise,

Very nice Perfect Handle hammer specimen.  I don't know anything about this hammer but I can tell you it's a keeper.

Good eye & nice score!
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: mikeswrenches on January 16, 2015, 06:42:39 AM
Brian, We're at Flywheeler's, row 54, spaces 43 & 44.  Across from the end of the tractor pulling track.
Sorry you missed us.  It's a huge place and hard to find people when you don't have a specific location.

Should be here in Feb. too. 

The hammer may be a Stanley.  I don't have my books with me.  The tool handle looks to be European.  Possibly British.

1930 and any other members that can make it to the show, please stop by and say hello.

Mike
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 16, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
Brian, We're at Flywheeler's, row 54, spaces 43 & 44.  Across from the end of the tractor pulling track.
Sorry you missed us.  It's a huge place and hard to find people when you don't have a specific location.

Should be here in Feb. too. 

The hammer may be a Stanley.  I don't have my books with me.  The tool handle looks to be European.  Possibly British.

1930 and any other members that can make it to the show, please stop by and say hello.

Mike
I am already planning to do that, I will be the good looking one :)
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 17, 2015, 06:23:24 PM
Ok so I lied, I was the one that looked like Uncle Fester but it was very nice meeting Mike, he is very personable and was a real pleasure to speak with.

I made a video of his set-up and some of the things to be seen at this show but I have to wait for my wife to make it on0line to you-tube.

Walked out with some goodies myself

These were on the dollar 2 dollar table, nice ball pein, lighter weight than what I have now, seemed like a nice hammer, the wire brush intrigued me cause it reminded me of a shoe brush, not sure what its original purpose would have been, ice pick with a store name on it, havent had the time to clean it yet to read it but I am hoping it is an advertising giveway for Dodge Brothers Corp :), a very sexy handled screwdriver, cant turn these down for 1.00 and some sort of flexible tool with various bits in the handle, assuming maybe carb/automotive work...at a dollar I did not care.

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0943_zpse5793aa8.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0943_zpse5793aa8.jpg.html)

Next I picked up this tool box ( about a foot in height and maybe 8-10 deep ) (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0940_zps9fad6a6a.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0940_zps9fad6a6a.jpg.html)manufactured by Union Steel Chest Corp. Leroy NY, know nothing about, not in great shape but I have seen alot worse, make a long story short I walked up to it and read the tag, said 25.00 tool included, opened it and it was full of tools, could see right away alot of junk but also quite a few keepers, I assumed he put the decimal in the wrong place and was an idiot overpricing something at 250.00.

I asked him whats his best price thinking he would say 200 and I would say...you know it says 25.00 dont you. (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0941_zpsfba6d433.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0941_zpsfba6d433.jpg.html)

Nope he says 20.00, I couldnt do it, I had to tell him that it was too cheap and I would feel guilty not saying something, he said it was no problem, stuff he no longer needed.

Didnt have to tell me twice, I paid him and scooted 80 pds of tools away.

Some Snap-on ( very few ) some Napa, a nice SK stubby screwdriver, a bunch of Armstrong wrenches ( are they any good or junk? ) Armstrong ratchet 1/2 drive, seems crude in action. Stanley 50 piece ( approx ) socket set missing a few sockets ( 3 maybe ) pliers, 4 tape measures of various sizes, 3 high quality magnetic pick-up tools ( havent looked that hard for manuf. mark, nice telescoping mirror, some decent hammers and one junk brand hammer.......lots of misc screwdrivers, mostly junk....list can go on......also a hatchet, seems decent quality never removed from its leather protector. (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0942_zps13b5b5b9.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0942_zps13b5b5b9.jpg.html)

Next maybe Im crazy but I cant turn away anything cool, he was asking 65 ( which I thought was cheap ) but I bought for 50.

When the last time you saw a fire extinguisher in its original wall case ? (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0937_zpsb3d18ef8.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0937_zpsb3d18ef8.jpg.html)

Stands over 3 feet tall, I do believe they go together cause the bottom of the case is worn with an imprint that matches the extinguisher. (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0938_zpsf4dd1729.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0938_zpsf4dd1729.jpg.html)

Just too cool (http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv117/jhason2/HPIM0939_zps9af20b54.jpg) (http://s675.photobucket.com/user/jhason2/media/HPIM0939_zps9af20b54.jpg.html)

Last time the extinguisher was inspected was 1971 ( I think sitting here ) 71 or 74. I dont have the time but I plan to learn what I can about this particular extinguisher manufacturer. If anyone can tell me something than that would be helpful. 
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: Papaw on January 17, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
I think you scored well, and am sure you are glad you went.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 17, 2015, 08:40:19 PM
I made a video of his set-up and some of the things to be seen at this show but I have to wait for my wife to make it on0line to you-tube.

Walked out with some goodies myself

Great, looking forward to the video! And, yes you did nab some goodies, nice haul !

Brian
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: gibsontool on January 18, 2015, 09:15:16 AM
I'd say you did really well. That's a cool extinguisher,from what I've seen there seems to be way more brass or copper ones around than the chrome one like yours. I have a few but they are all copper and they sure don't have the have the original wall case.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: Chillylulu on January 18, 2015, 12:27:21 PM
I like those 2-1/2 gallon ones. I gave away 20 or so ~ May of last year. They make the best squirt guns.

To fill you unscrew the cap, after fully discharging all pressure, and put in water. A lot of them have a plastic tube that extends maybe 6" into the tank. It's purpose is to indicate when its full, leaving about 6"for air. After filling with water, fill with air through the shrader valve, just like a tire.

Sometimes, when I feel extra evil, I put a bunch of ice in. Makes the water really chilly. It gets the attention of the wettest water-fighter.

Cabinets are harder to find. They don't have an expiration date.

Chilly
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 18, 2015, 03:51:46 PM
I made a video of his set-up and some of the things to be seen at this show but I have to wait for my wife to make it on0line to you-tube.

Walked out with some goodies myself

Great, looking forward to the video! And, yes you did nab some goodies, nice haul !

Brian
My wife will hopefully do it within the next few days.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 18, 2015, 03:53:21 PM
I like those 2-1/2 gallon ones. I gave away 20 or so ~ May of last year. They make the best squirt guns.

To fill you unscrew the cap, after fully discharging all pressure, and put in water. A lot of them have a plastic tube that extends maybe 6" into the tank. It's purpose is to indicate when its full, leaving about 6"for air. After filling with water, fill with air through the shrader valve, just like a tire.

Sometimes, when I feel extra evil, I put a bunch of ice in. Makes the water really chilly. It gets the attention of the wettest water-fighter.

Cabinets are harder to find. They don't have an expiration date.

Chilly
Ill have a few more questions I bet you can answer, will do so when I get the chance, thanks
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: lauver on January 19, 2015, 11:49:14 AM
RedVise,

A funny thing happened this morning.  I was looking in the 1934 Stanley Catalog for a countersink I recently purchased and stumbled on a hammer that is a dead ringer for your Perfect Handle style hammer.  It's a:

Stanley No.2 Tack Hammer
Described as 4" head, 11-1/2" handle, wood scales, made of malleable iron.

I tried, but was unable to capture a photo image of the illustration.

Do me a favor and take some measurements of your hammer and clean up the metal to see if there are any stampings.  Let me know what you find.

I think we have a "winner" here.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 19, 2015, 03:45:41 PM
Stanley No.2 Tack Hammer
Described as 4" head, 11-1/2" handle, wood scales, made of malleable iron.
I think we have a "winner" here.

Gary, Thanks !!  Good eye, I think you nailed it, the measurements are exact.  Mikeswrenches was thinking it was a Stanley.
Using your info I found the below one on thebay, mine has a faint circle where the patent date would be.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1887-Tack-Hammer-Woodworking-Shoe-Repair-/271678644026

For grins, check out this cut out version: 
http://www.patented-antiques.com/images/2013-writ/TOOLS/PLANES-13/6M-Tools/IMG_4498.JPG


Thanks again !! Brian
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: lauver on January 19, 2015, 09:29:59 PM
RedVise,

1887?  Alaska?  Cobblers hammer?  Where's this stuff coming from.

At any rate, you have your answers... Who, What, When; And a fine unique hammer to boot.  Enjoy it!
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: lauver on January 20, 2015, 05:40:52 PM
RedVise,

Here's a small photo clip from the 1934 Stanley Catalog showing available tack hammers at the time...  here goes:

(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/lauver_photos/StanleyNo2TackHammerca1934_zps2787a80c.jpg) (http://s366.photobucket.com/user/lauver_photos/media/StanleyNo2TackHammerca1934_zps2787a80c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 20, 2015, 08:41:57 PM
That's just excellent, Gary!!  Might just have to clean 'er up a little now and print that page to go with it.

Brian
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: 1930 on January 22, 2015, 04:54:22 AM
I made a video of his set-up and some of the things to be seen at this show but I have to wait for my wife to make it on0line to you-tube.

Walked out with some goodies myself

Great, looking forward to the video! And, yes you did nab some goodies, nice haul !

Brian
My wife was able to get the videos downloaded but for some reason they are horrible quality, Im going to have to fire the director I guess. Not worth viewing.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: RedVise on January 14, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
Must be lucky, I guess !  I picked up a similar hammer at this years show.
C.S. OSBORNE NO. 5 SADDLE MAKERS HAMMER - 544AI
 7 INCHES FROM CLAW TO FACE OF HAMMER.  1 LB. 2 OZ OVERALL, GOOD HARDWOOD. 

Also got to chat with Mikes wrenches / Mikes Vises, he easily has the nice tools on the nicest display in the show.

Brian

PS:  Big Show - the golf cart battery was dying as we went out the exit.

Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: Northwoods on January 15, 2016, 09:43:22 AM
What a thread!
Really enjoyed reading it.
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: lptools on January 15, 2016, 05:02:48 PM
Hello, I found a similar hammer from Stanley in John Walter's book. "No. 4 Improved Tack Hammer" , Conklin's Patent, 12" long, walnut infills, one piece head, handle, & claw. Book lists it as being 12" long. I have one here someplace, if I run across it, I will post  a pic. Regards, Lou
Title: Re: Perfect Handle style hammer from Fl. Flywheelers show
Post by: mikeswrenches on January 27, 2016, 07:20:41 PM
"Also got to chat with Mikes wrenches / Mikes Vises, he easily has the nice tools on the nicest display in the show."

Thanks for the kind words Brian.   I've met a whole bunch of really nice folks down there, many of them come by at every show. Makes it all worthwhile when people appreciate what you've done.

1930 also stopped by.  Haven't seen him for a couple years. Hope to see you both in February.

Mike