Tool Talk
What's-It Forum => What's-It Forum => Topic started by: blackoak on January 08, 2015, 11:49:51 PM
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Had these for several years and never could tell what they were used or designed for.
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Kitchen tool? Combination utility shears and bottle openers?
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I've seen examples before -- no markings, and the sizes of the openings are too small for most kitchen applications. An unsolved mystery at this point.
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Kitchen shears-bottle opener-canning jar ring crimper/opener--Just a WAG!
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Here's my wag - those look like they would fit several types of small shut-off valves. Doesn't explain the scissors though....,
Chilly
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Snips for cutting off "Lock out-Tag out" tags?
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Snips for cutting off "Lock out-Tag out" tags?
I like it!
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Lockout tag out tags should be put in place with locks so only the person working on the equipment is able to remove it with their key. You shouldn't use wire ties or other devices.
Trailer security seals maybe but these pliers don't look heavy duty enough to cut the metal ones, maybe the plastic ones.
My 2 cents
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I tried to use it to open one of my favorite beverages and although it will open a Miller Lite beer bottle, it was hard to use it that way. The prongs are spaced to far apart to get leverage to pry the cap off.
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I don't think those snips would work on any lockout scissors or padlocks that we use up here in Northern British Columbia. I ran a construction company for many years and had to cut locks off a time or two and we usually used a big bolt cutters or a zip cut. Generally happened when an employee went home and forgot to take his lock off, our procedure was we had to contact the person by phone or whatever before cutting the lock or scissors. Proved very costly in some cases, but you had to make sure the person was not on the job site. I think chilly maybe be onto some thing with his take on it. When the you close them up does the clamp closest to the jaws form a ribbed concentric circle on the inner and a hex on the outer ? How long is this guy overall and how long are the jaws of the snips?
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rereading Chilly's reply, if it was for valves, the scissors could be use to cut off any
out of order tags.
these could have been used before OSHA's mandates.
just a thought.
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Holding out for lockout tags- (http://static.coleparmer.com/large_images/40504_49.jpg)
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good find Papaw,
and string was also used. easy cut.
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Still don't know if the other part will turn valves or such.
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Hard to tell without a scale for size reference, but the serrated opening could be for the stem of a boiler drain or valve, the other opening for a specific jamb nut on the same, & the cutters for the graphite impregnated cord that was used for packing material.
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They are 5" long and the cutters only open up to 1/4", so whatever they were designed to cut wasn't thick
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The graphite cord would easily fit within that cutter, it is usually +/- 1/8". The size I'm referring to is the "diameter" of the serrated opening. Is it about the same as what you see on the hose bib handle on your house?
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Lock-out tags are different for plumbing than the ones they use for electrical.
I think in this case the tags were more likely tamper seals. Like the old seals they put on gas, plumbing, and electrical meters. Sometimes they were lead seals, sometims plastic tabs with wires, etc. They are designed to keep the public from accessing srvice connections. More for security back then rather than safety, I think.
Some gas valves have weird handles. That first section might fit some valve perfectly. The 2nd section could fit a valve stem, just under a handle, and the hex could fit a oscking nut. This all points to water, rather than gas, service. So my modified swag is "water service or meter plier."
Chilly
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I can see these working for the type of tag Papaw showed us.
When you shut down a machine or whatever are tags shown considered adequate in terms of lockout ? Don't you still have to have an actual lock on it ?
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Requirements are different for different situations. A stationary tool may require panel lockout while working on it. A portable tool that needs repair might only require an out of service tag. Technically, what Papaw shows are tags, not lock-outs. Lock-outs require a shut-off or method of disconnect that is under the control of the person requiring the lock-out.
Chilly
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The big opening looks like it would form a pentagon when closed. Not a hex. What would that be used on?
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Quite a few valves that are tamper resistant use 5 sided nuts - fire hydrants, for example. I think that opening is more of a elongated pentagon - it seems like the sides are shorter than the bottom?
My guess is that it was a funny shaped handle that the pliers fit.
Chilly
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The finish is similar to cast iron nutcrackers, rather than a forged tool, so I'd tend to look at kitchenalia for an answer...
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My WAG would be kitchen tool. Mason jar, ketchup bottle, nut cracker and general purpose snippers.
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The finish is similar to cast iron nutcrackers, rather than a forged tool, so I'd tend to look at kitchenalia for an answer...
I'm pretty sure it's not cast cast. I did a little clean up on it and posted some better close up pictures of it in my original post.
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Is it my imagination or is something written here:
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It does look like writing....
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Maybe try a pencil tracing?
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Is it my imagination or is something written here:
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I'm guessing that section is to compress a spring retainer to release.
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I checked it out with the most powerful magnifying glass I have under a bright light and could not make out any writing. I even did the pencil trick, but I found nothing