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Title: Rare Pains
Post by: OilyRascal on October 30, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
I'm ranting!  It drives me nuts when folks label common tools for sell as rare  (e.g. something I may have 10 of in NOS form).  What is the need to label it anything (vintage, historic, antique, rare)?  Why not just be factual (1 of 12 or 1200, made in 1945)? It just seems dishonest to me, to lure the uneducated in with such a strong title.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Papaw on October 30, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
Nothing more than an effort to get more views and bids.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: oldgoaly on October 30, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
tools are not that bad when you compare them to old tube radios! they will gut the good stuff and put in made in china crap and call it an antique and very rare!
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: HeelSpur on October 30, 2014, 07:21:04 PM
tools are not that bad when you compare them to old tube radios! they will gut the good stuff and put in made in china crap and call it an antique and very rare!
Do you know anything about old tube radio's? I have one in a shed but actually I don't think it's a radio but something to do with amps or something like that.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: john k on October 30, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
Don't tell Scott G. about that thing in the garage...    I guess buyer beware is still and always the watchword.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: turnnut on October 30, 2014, 08:57:23 PM
OilyRascal,  look at the positive side,  I just stepped out of the forum and went to EBAY and entered
RARE WRENCH, wow !       830 hits.
entered rare tool, double wow,     7971 hits.

by their standards, we all have rare to semi-rare museums of our own.

rare is it to find a seller that really knows what he is listing, most of us keep a list
of the ones that we know & trust. yes, as stated before me, "buyer beware"
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: gibsontool on October 30, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
Oily. I agree 100%.  I don't know how that could ever be stopped, but, I wish I did.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: swervncarz on October 30, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
I have no problem with labeling something vintage or antique,  it helps when browsing online as long as the item is ACTUALLY vintage or antique (which in a lot of cases they are not). When someone puts RARE that just tells me they probably don't know much about the item that they are selling & they are gonna puta high price tag on it.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: oldgoaly on October 30, 2014, 11:10:16 PM
I had too big of a pic and lost all I typed..... :angry:

don't plug it in you could ruin it!
electrolytics  capacitors go bad, the voltage 127vac at my place, not 110vac

I lost a bet with my wife 25 years go, she said 300, I said 150, I counted, took  a week, had 297.... she says there is 3 more in the van that makes 300. here is a couple of pics.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: HeelSpur on October 31, 2014, 06:02:50 AM
I'll take a pic of it, might be something you want. That's an awesome collection.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: HeelSpur on October 31, 2014, 07:49:54 AM
This is 9 1/2"x6"x6", straight from the building as is.

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/wvabe/001-13.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/wvabe/003-16.jpg)
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/wvabe/004-16.jpg)

Cord has been cut.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Lostmind on October 31, 2014, 07:54:02 AM
I don't use Rare in my posts , but I do use vintage when I know there are modern or repro
of the same item. When you go to google , if you don't put in vintage , you may never find what your looking for.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: oldgoaly on October 31, 2014, 11:01:47 AM
Heelspur,
that will sell, it's an All-American 5 (5 tube) if there is no breaks in the bakelite, that is a good colorful one. Dates? around 1946-50. I'm not a collector of post WW2 stuff, but could suggest some people or places to sell it.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: HeelSpur on October 31, 2014, 01:50:26 PM
Heelspur,
that will sell, it's an All-American 5 (5 tube) if there is no breaks in the bakelite, that is a good colorful one. Dates? around 1946-50. I'm not a collector of post WW2 stuff, but could suggest some people or places to sell it.
That sounds good, send me some info. or links.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: anglesmith on November 01, 2014, 01:05:30 AM
How's this one!?  It's not old (or antique), not hand made by a blacksmith,  not a cobbler's hammer and certainly not rare !!  Still available, and I know this seller does not want to know when he is wrong.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/351203726261?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Graeme
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Batz on November 01, 2014, 02:13:01 AM
I had too big of a pic and lost all I typed..... :angry:

don't plug it in you could ruin it!
electrolytics  capacitors go bad, the voltage 127vac at my place, not 110vac

I lost a bet with my wife 25 years go, she said 300, I said 150, I counted, took  a week, had 297.... she says there is 3 more in the van that makes 300. here is a couple of pics.

fantastic! How much stuff like this is in land fill now?
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Batz on November 01, 2014, 04:57:16 AM
I'm ranting!  It drives me nuts when folks label common tools for sell as rare  (e.g. something I may have 10 of in NOS form).  What is the need to label it anything (vintage, historic, antique, rare)?  Why not just be factual (1 of 12 or 1200, made in 1945)? It just seems dishonest to me, to lure the uneducated in with such a strong title.

This happens all the time, as you guys know I'm a collector of blow torches. Time and again I see, really rare, vintage, sort after, etc.
Mostly a crock... I suppose we just have to put up with this shit.

I'm with you Oily, it's a pain in the but.

Batz
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Charles Garrett on November 01, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
I recognize the little one as My wife's folks had one on the table in the breakfast booth for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: leg17 on November 01, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
"RARE" on ebay.

I been selling on ebay for six months now and I never have seen one at yard sales in my neighborhood.

It MUST be "rare".
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Charles Garrett on November 01, 2014, 04:05:39 PM
I am reminded of an old saying "there is a sucker born every minute" and I've added "and 2 to take him"
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Branson on November 02, 2014, 08:35:08 AM
I'm ranting!  It drives me nuts when folks label common tools for sell as rare  (e.g. something I may have 10 of in NOS form).  What is the need to label it anything (vintage, historic, antique, rare)?  Why not just be factual (1 of 12 or 1200, made in 1945)? It just seems dishonest to me, to lure the uneducated in with such a strong title.

"Rare" usually followed by an exclamation point, is one of the most used and abused words on eBay.  The only one I hate more is "primitive," often spelled primative.   Some sellers I do believe use it to make people believe it is more valuable than it is, but other sellers I am convinced just don't know -- it means they haven't seen it at a flea market, and it's not in stock at the big box stores.  It still galls me, though.  If I see another 'L@@K! Rare primitive #5 wood shaver"  I think I'll gag.
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: bill300d on November 02, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Its not just eBay. I get it a lot at the flea markets. Usually goes something like this when i pick something up to inspect, that there is rare, I've never sold one like that before.

bill
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: swervncarz on November 02, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Its not just eBay. I get it a lot at the flea markets. Usually goes something like this when i pick something up to inspect, that there is rare, I've never sold one like that before.
bill

You can tell him that he probably won't sell that one either!
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: swervncarz on November 02, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
My favorite thing at yard sales and flea markets is when they tell me how much it is selling for on ebay. .. I usually walk away immediately!
Title: Re: Rare Pains
Post by: Chillylulu on November 16, 2014, 11:43:15 PM
How's this one!?  It's not old (or antique), not hand made by a blacksmith,  not a cobbler's hammer and certainly not rare !!  Still available, and I know this seller does not want to know when he is wrong.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/351203726261?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Graeme

My guess is that you're mis-reading it - I think it is for use by an odd, over 100 yrs old blacksmith who makes shoes by hand.  Who do you think makes steel toed footwear?

I am sure the old guy is rare ( and his name is Rumpelstiltskin, if he demands your firstborn.)

Chilly