Tool Talk
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Branson on August 30, 2011, 05:49:36 PM
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Folks, I have a need. I've picked up a customer with consistent orders for picture frames -- have 20 to do right away.
Now I have a Stanley 100 miter machine, but it came without the base to attach it to a bench. It kinda just rolls around without the base.
It's pictured on page 102 of the Stanley #34 catalog, 1950 edition.
I need it to work. It looks like the base is the same as on the #400 miter vise. I might be able to cobble something together, but it would really be best if it had the actual, issued base. Has any body seen one? Anybody have one?
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I have an old Marsh mitre box that is forerunner of Stanley 100. Mine has Aug 6,1899(408248) and Jan 28,1890 (D19629) cast into base. Datamp lists these patents as not known to have been produced but evidently they were. Sorry but don't want to part with it although it is a bear to store. Have had a couple of others,but they have found new homes.Will keep eye out for one for you but they don't turn up often..
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Thanks, jimwrench. The castings look identical! Wonder if Stanley bought the patents or acquired the Marsh company...
My grandfather and I used the Stanley #400 -- he had an art supply store and custom framing business. Unfortunately, it went with the business when he sold it and retired.
I'm trying to cobble a makeshift base. If you could post some pictures of yours, it might help.
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Yes Stanley acquired Marsh and continued production and eventually put their name on them.
Will try to get some detailed pics of base for you.
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Branson,
Here are some pics of base. Realize they would be more useful if base was disassembled but thru bolt looked pretty rusty. Will put a little penetrant on it tonight and try disassembling tomorrow. I can provide some dimensions if I get it apart.
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This was listed on eBay last night
http://www.ebay.com/itm/rare-Stanley-Marsh-no-400-frame-clamp-large-PERFECT-A-/120771528687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1e8b47ef
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This was listed on eBay last night
A nice one, and a lower starting bid than on the other one. A lot cheaper than the # 100, item 360389432192
I managed to cobble together a base that works for the moment, and put the thing to work yesterday afternoon.
Using it again this afternoon -- 10 more frames to complete the order. Hobefully, more orders to come.
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Branson,
Here are some pics of base. Realize they would be more useful if base was disassembled but thru bolt looked pretty rusty. Will put a little penetrant on it tonight and try disassembling tomorrow. I can provide some dimensions if I get it apart.
Thanks for the pics! Very clear images. Sigh, now I know what I have to look for... But I got mine working for the moment. I'll be looking for the saw guides in time. Probably won't use the saw function, but it would be nice to have the piece complete.
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I guess I'm too used to grade 8 fasteners. Alittle tapping with ball pein hammer broke the set screw off flush and a little pressure with 5/8 box end broke bolt off flush also. I have a little feel for proper torque and these were way below that. Guess I'll leave as is for a while. It is functional;just can't tilt(setscrew) or raise and lower (bolt). These functions do not preclude use or if required I'll drill them out. Sorry looks like no disassembled pics at this time.
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I guess I'm too used to grade 8 fasteners. Alittle tapping with ball pein hammer broke the set screw off flush and a little pressure with 5/8 box end broke bolt off flush also. I have a little feel for proper torque and these were way below that. Guess I'll leave as is for a while. It is functional;just can't tilt(setscrew) or raise and lower (bolt). These functions do not preclude use or if required I'll drill them out. Sorry looks like no disassembled pics at this time.
I'm terribly sorry to hear that! But, yeah, it still works for use.
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Ouch : (
Screws in cast iron can be a particularl problem for some reason, perhaps the way it flakes when it rusts.
Old screws that have been tightened and loosened a hundred times are likely fatigued to the point where there isn't much left holding the screw together. add a bit of rust and....
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A pair are listed here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Vintage-Stanley-No-400-Picture-Frame-Miter-Clamp-Vise-2-/300596975441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fcf9d751
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A pair are listed here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Vintage-Stanley-No-400-Picture-Frame-Miter-Clamp-Vise-2-/300596975441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fcf9d751
Wow! thank you! A two-for-one sale, too.
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Got a Stanley 400 miter vise at auction today and it is a little newer than my 100 antique. Looks like base is very similar or even the same in most dimensions. Can disassemble this one so if you decide later that you need photos Branson will be happy to provide.
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Got a Stanley 400 miter vise at auction today and it is a little newer than my 100 antique. Looks like base is very similar or even the same in most dimensions. Can disassemble this one so if you decide later that you need photos Branson will be happy to provide.
Congratulations, and thanks, jimwrench. The pics would be appreciated.
Odd thing, Rockller is making one. It looks much the same, but for some reason, they've replaced the water faucet style handles with tubular looking things. Foolish change, in my opinion. One of the benefits of the vise is that the faucet style lets you spin the vise open quickly.
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Got another Stanley 100 miter machine at auction Sat nite. Guess saying they are scarse was trick,now they are popping up like mushroons. Also got a Stanley 2246 with Disston porter backsaw at same auction. I think it will go to auction tomorrow.
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Guess I'd better start looking for one, I kinda want to make my own picture frames.
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Sheesh! Now can you find one broke for 50 cents so I can buy the base from you? You're batting a thousand!